Comments | juppschmitz: I was wondering...

juppschmitz

I was wondering...

Nov 16, 2015 16:58

...did people who were already watching in season 4 make the connection back to Yellow Fever by the time Heaven and Hell aired? You know, that the reason for Dean getting infected with the Ghost sicknes was him torturing souls in Hell, and NOT that he was “a dick ( Read more... )

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tabaqui November 16 2015, 20:19:24 UTC

Well, i never thought of Dean as a 'dick', but i didn't make that connection, either. Though it makes perfect sense....

juppschmitz November 16 2015, 20:44:51 UTC

Yeah, if you watch Yellow Fever with Heaven and Hell in mind it's really obvious, I think.

tabaqui November 16 2015, 20:46:28 UTC

*fires up Netflix*

juppschmitz November 16 2015, 20:49:43 UTC

Lol, don't put yourself through any hardship on my account :D

samaya256 November 20 2015, 22:24:02 UTC

I think Dean fans complained after Yellow Fever aired. I remember reading somewhere about Kripke clarifying on "Dean being a dick" idea. But, yeah, your average viewer might not have caught that particular connection.

Personally, I wasn't a fan of Yellow Fever. Sam and Bobby were just too callous and insensitive, and of course, the possibility of Dean's impending death was played for cheap laughs.

juppschmitz November 21 2015, 08:21:10 UTC

Yeah, I remember when I watched I was like What? Sam AND Bobby agree that Dean's got the Ghost Sickness because they think he's a dick??? Wtf???

And then there was that scene in the motel room with vision!Lilith and that's when the whole ha ha look how ridiculous the Ghost Sickness thing is! completely toppled over and went straight into bloody scary. For Dean it was quite clearly NOT a laughing matter. (I must say that I'm not ever really surprised when Sam is callous and insensitive towards Dean, because I don't ever really expect differently. Even though - in this episode it was way worse than normal, and it seemed to come out of nowhere, no siren, no nothing. Season 4 Sam, what can you say, right?)

The thing is, I would have loved to see Sam's a-HA! moment after i>Heaven and Hell, and to have even just one single line, telling Dean Oh man, this must be why you got the Ghost Sickness a few episodes ago! I'm so so sorry I made fun of you that time!You know, to have the reason for the Ghost Sickness infection acknowledged on screen ( ... )

samaya256 November 21 2015, 09:19:53 UTC

Definitely. You can see that whole ghost sickness thing was played for the laughs, Dean was used as this comedic side-kick and such but when Lilith entered the scene it just got real and scary. I find it telling that neither Sam nor Bobby got how traumatizing it was for Dean. Remember hallicuifer? I don't think Dean laughed when Sam was all tormented by his hallucinations. Of course, this is Sam, so it is not really surprising that he doesn't care either way.(And it is not just about S4 or demon blood, Sam was equally cruel in S8/S9- and after a while you'll have to accept that this is what his character is ( ... )

juppschmitz November 21 2015, 12:59:08 UTC

I've actually often wondered if I'd have less problems with Sam if he was played by Jensen. And not just because of looks :)

I think a lot of my problems with Sam stem from the fact that I think JP's acting is all over the place. I just never know what's really going on in his head.

No problems there with Jensen :D