YiffyLeaks Discussion

Dec 20, 2010 14:06

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theflamecrow December 20 2010, 22:12:14 UTC
Why did the Gov do that, anyway? o.O

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jurann December 20 2010, 22:24:46 UTC
Nobody's sure the gov't did it or not yet. Kinda hard to tell. I've been pointing network tools at things to poke at it and try to verify one way or the other right now. Seeing some weird routing and server response stuff going on, and honestly I dunno how the gov't works about server seizures, so I don't know if this is expected behavior that validates that the gov't is involved, or if the guy at YiffyLeaks is just doing it for attention or what.

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theflamecrow December 20 2010, 22:30:16 UTC
I figure it's attention... The Gov took a while to shut down WikiLeaks itself, they would investigate YiffyLeaks most likely and see it's not really harmful to the Gov.

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jurann December 20 2010, 22:41:47 UTC
As far as I know, the gov't could NOT shut down WikiLeaks, because it's hosted in the Netherlands and they're a neutral country. So the US has no jurisdiction there to force their hand in seizing WikiLeaks' servers and hosting.

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odakota_furry December 20 2010, 22:24:42 UTC
Your tax dollars at work! I've always thought that "internet privacy" was a misnomer, so this rapid action by the gov't surprises me. I really think they've got better things they could worry about.

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jurann December 20 2010, 22:32:56 UTC
Well, at this point, nobody really knows if the gov't really got involved or it's just a hoax to boost conversation/attention/etc. I've been trying to verify it, but the results I'm seeing aren't really... Anything but speculative. As I said above, I don't know how the gov't genuinely operates in regards to server seizures, but the server's Apache process is responding normally (with site temporarily unavailable response) when you telnet into it and do a simple HTTP GET without any client information in the headers.

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icywolfy December 22 2010, 00:03:47 UTC
Domain seizure is a -domain- seizure, not a subdomain re-mapping; they would have taken , and you can't do that with the subdomain. And he could have at least updated the image to match that one that the ICE is -actually- using. ( http://newstylerolex.com/ for instance)

And they would have taken malicelabs.com and redirected it over, so that the entire site is under their control; not just a single subdomain.

This is called 'trying to get more attention'

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jurann December 20 2010, 22:35:11 UTC
Yeah, that's kinda where I'm at. I'm still somewhat on the fence about it and trying to figure out what to make of it. If NOTHING else, reading through all of those notes really helped me realize who my friends and enemies are. Too many people made the mistake of trusting FA with private thoughts, opinions, bullshit stories, and secrets. I'd kind of like to see YiffyLeaks back up and running, though I can understand that if the info was obtained through cracking an admin account how that may have been illegal and justify the seizure. So it's hard to say. All speculation right now.

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jurann December 20 2010, 22:48:47 UTC
BTW - Got your Twitter follow note, I'm just wondering if we've met or know each other someplace online or something under another name or the like. Typically I only follow or friend folks I know a bit, just to keep things at a sane dull roar on my social networks. ;D

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Yiffyleaks da_well December 20 2010, 22:33:57 UTC
Just another annoyance on the web and another reason to not to reveal sensitive stuff on the web.

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Re: Yiffyleaks jurann December 20 2010, 22:37:55 UTC
Really? I dunno, for me the information that's been posted has been very useful in seeing into some people's character and motives and selfishness. I think it's been terribly useful and I kind of wish more people were this transparent normally instead of requiring a hacker to dig it up and put it out there. There's plenty of apparently unflattering information about me released in this stuff, but ironically I'm feeling a lot more safe and secure about it than a lot of others (esp Dragoneer) should, because even in private notes I carried myself honestly and diplomatically like I always do. I never put any secrets in FA notes, because I try not to ever HAVE secrets to begin with. I'm pretty open and honest.

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Re: Yiffyleaks da_well December 20 2010, 23:09:51 UTC
Thinking about your statement, your probably right. You have nothing to worry and fear about if your open, honest, and straight with folks. Even if they do leak info about you, what are they gonna do? fault you for being fair to people?

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Re: Yiffyleaks jurann December 20 2010, 23:21:27 UTC
You'd be AMAZED at how people will twist shit around and intentionally misinterpret what you say. =P I found half a dozen nasty notes about me from Dragoneer to other people smearing me saying I said things I didn't say - which was very clear to see on YiffyLeaks because you could see the note I sent him plain as day, and then the vicious notes where he twisted my words to other people to slander me. So even if you're honest and straight and open, people will still do whatever it takes to make you into a bad guy when it suits them. =P

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ryuchitoran December 20 2010, 22:36:53 UTC
I poked around YiffyLeaks briefly, trying to figure out what notes caused some of the main topics of conversation recently. I couldn't find anything.. as I didn't feel like scrolling through 9999 pages of notes.

I'll have to find somebody who knows what caused all this harumphing and ask them what's up.

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jurann December 20 2010, 22:40:03 UTC
Well, it seems the MAIN issue people are latching onto are the notes between/about Dragoneer and Zaush... Though I think that ANYONE who's a major player in furry fandom who used FA for anything has something up on the table there, and has secrets or opinions or things that are fairly unflattering that got released on YiffyLeaks. So different people are focusing on different portions. I, for one, learned a lot about who my friends really are, and that a LOT of people pay me politeness and lip-service despite harboring a rather nasty opinion of me.

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ryuchitoran December 20 2010, 22:43:20 UTC
Yeah I don't think I ever sent a note to any of the people who's notes were released. And the only notes I have ever sent at all were.. "So uh.. any progress on that commission I paid for a year ago?" and variations on that.

I'm definitely not a major player in anything though.

Also I think we'd all learn a lot about people if we heard everything they thought about us. It's a good thing we're not all telepathic.

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jurann December 20 2010, 22:52:30 UTC
Yes, but if everyone was transparent... It would force us all to change our lifestyles and be a lot more honest and open from the start. I don't see anything but benefits for society in general if that were the case. Then again, I'm probably not seeing some angle or thinking it all through...

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