war president

Nov 06, 2007 10:12

Bush to Democrats: 'We are at war'

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer

President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century, saying "the world paid a terrible price" then and risks similar consequences for inaction today.
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just_a_sliver November 6 2007, 15:43:14 UTC
Yes, Iran is growing quite the backbone thanks to our fearless leader.

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krrayn November 6 2007, 16:31:52 UTC
Agree on all points.

It still sticks in my craw that the UN, an organization our country helped put together with the express purpose of furthering world peace, told us not to go in, and dubya thumbed his nose at the entire world and said screw you, we're going anyway.

Not to mention how he's squandered the biggest outpouring of nationalism the US has seen since Pearl Harbor, not to mention the good will of sympathetic countries in the wake of 9-11.

Kind of makes little people like me feel helpless as we watch the slow formation of an autocratic state.

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just_a_sliver November 6 2007, 17:11:12 UTC
It really bugged me back in the beginning when Bush was complaining that Saddam wouldn't let the UN inspectors in to do their jobs, then claimed to be going into Iraq because Saddam had WMDs and defied the UN orders to comply. The US invasion of Iraq was in defiance of UN principles, but Bush thought that was just fine. He was so short-sighted as we all saw with his "Mission Accomplished" photo op. What a joke. We'll be paying for this for a long, long time not just with money, but with political capital.

If we slide into a lengthy recession and another military crisis arises, we will be in deep shit, all because our president wanted another ego boost.

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ladycinnahster November 6 2007, 19:16:27 UTC
I couldn't agree with you more. Bush has got to know that he will go down in history as the worst president EVER. They used to say that 9/11 would define his presidency and the goals he accomplished. I would imagine that "they" now say he has ruined his presidency using 9/11 as the reason for everything that has happened since.

It's not that I think Saddam shouldn't have been dealt with. It's the strategies he used, the approaches he used, the logic he used. Perfect example of how lies are spewed to the American people, and truth happens in closed conferences.

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just_a_sliver November 6 2007, 20:08:22 UTC
Something that bothers me a lot is Bush's willingness to stomp all over American civil liberties. Obviously, we need tools to find and capture terrorists, but it seems they are already in place. We need to use those tools we already have more efficiently and judiciously. There is no reason for my telephone calls and emails to be filtered through any kind of government program seeking to find terrorists. Tapping millions to find a few is ridiculous. The Patriot Act is one of the scariest pieces of legislation we've ever had, and we can thank Congress for that one as well.

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budmassey November 6 2007, 23:45:31 UTC
You must understand Bush's agenda. He needs fear and hatred to rally support for his otherwise untenable actions. Bush lacked the sophistication to understand that "taking out" Sadddam and the Taliban created a power vacuum without a plan on how to fill it. It is because of him that Iran is now emboldened to flex its muscle, and they WILL get the bomb, and this is just the tip of the iceberg ( ... )

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just_a_sliver November 7 2007, 00:28:13 UTC
It's all just such a mess. It's very discouraging. Bush really seems to believe that if he says something often enough, it will become true. He is truly a dangerous man.

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budmassey November 7 2007, 00:55:01 UTC
He is, without a doubt, the most dangerous man alive. Generations will pay for his blunders.

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just_a_sliver November 7 2007, 00:44:53 UTC
It's important to note that this goes far beyond disagreeing with the politics of whoever happens to be in office. This president is hurting us and future generations. It's not rhetoric, it's real.

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knightos November 7 2007, 13:12:23 UTC
My biggest concern right now is that the next president will not be able to get us out of the hole we are in. I actually think we need a throw-away president; someone who comes in to office with no intent to get re-elected so that they can make the unpopular decisions necessary to get this country back on track. The only problem with that is that we will also need a throw-aqay congress, too, which isn't bloody likely.

Out of curiosity; do I know you? You have me friended, but I will admit to not recognizing you and not recognizing any of your friends...

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just_a_sliver November 7 2007, 14:42:17 UTC
I agree. It may very well be that whoever becomes the next president will be limited to just one term whether he/she plans on it or not. As for Congress, they are so concerned about the election right now, they have to tiptoe around to get anything done. My hope is that after the new president is in office, they will be able to make the moves necessary to correct the problem in Iraq (whatever that means). I am pleased that they are already so eager to distance themselves from President Bush, but they need to do more. Most policy regarding Iraq is set by the president and his advisors, and Congress needs such an overwhelming majority to override him. First, we need a president who will stop digging that giant useless hole, then we can hope to refill it.

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