Adding to the orgy

Apr 20, 2007 06:26

Inside my pervy head. Jeeze. The slash pairings just keep on a coming, don’t they? So, I’ve never really been able to see Kirk/Spock, despite being brought up on Star Trek. So, a_crystal_ball knowing my weakness for vids, shows me this. (ETA: Huh. For some reason the link isn’t working. If you're as depraved as I and want to see it, type in youtube "Hallelujah ( ( Read more... )

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justqueenie April 21 2007, 03:12:40 UTC
Oh, Sharon, I adore you! You're apologising for a long answer?! This was *exactly* the kind of information I was hoping someone would impart upon me! Thank you! Very odd about the vid link not working... If you’re as depraved as I and would like to see a Kirk/Spock vid cut with graphic gay sex scenes from the US version of Queer As Folk, then type in youtube "Hallelujah (Kirk/Spock)"

Now, moving back to your awesome Buffverse knowledge, this:

I think Spike also calls Angel his sire in the Angel series one episode "In the dark" which incidently begins with a marvelous rooftop sequence whereby Spike mocks Angel about various things(found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3wDfaAa-w0 if you want to see it). Spike calls Angel his sire at all points up to the season 5 Buffy episode "Fool for Love"Really, really surprised me! From seeing Spike being so snarky towards Angel in ATS series 5, I’ve found it extremely difficult to imagine Spike ever having *any* ( ... )

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sharon28 April 21 2007, 15:46:51 UTC
If you’re as depraved as I and would like to see a Kirk/Spock vid cut with graphic gay sex scenes from the US version of Queer As Folk

I think I may pass on that one. I think I've seen something like that for Spike/Angel but that's a more adult show if you get what I mean. I'm not sure I want to see something like that for a show like Star Trek that I first watched as a kid.

I’ve found it extremely difficult to imagine Spike ever having *any* respect for Angel.

I don't think he says it with respect it's more of a "I'll stake me old sire" line.

think I’m going to dive straight into Buffy series 5! I can hear many people yelling "What is WORNG with you?! Watch them in order, damn it!" But once again, I’m in Buffverse for The Spike and The SpangelWell if I were you I'd be diving in at series 2 then, simply for the bit where Angel kisses Spike, she says temptingly*G* Okay so it's not much of a kiss and it's over in probably less than a second but it's all we have so it's best to enjoy it:) I thought the scene would have been on ( ... )

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Stupid LJ comment limit. Part two! justqueenie April 21 2007, 03:18:46 UTC
As I was about to say before LJ told me I had exceeded their allowed character limit... Back to Spike!

when Spike tortured Angel for the ring

Didn't Spike hire Marcus to do that for him? Presumably because he couldn't do it himself. I don't recall Spike being the type to torture his victims that was more Angelus's style.In 'School Hard' Giles explains how Spike’s nickname originated from how he liked to torture his victims with railroad spikes. I got the impression that Spike hired someone else to torture Angel because he wanted the job to be done well. He wanted to cause Angel horrific pain, so he hired an expert on torture. However, all of that said, I would prefer to think that Spike just couldn’t do it... But I fear those are my rose tinted glasses speaking there, because Spike is just... GUH! He has an extraordinarily, sexy muscled neck. Don’t you think ( ... )

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songfire3 April 20 2007, 22:48:22 UTC
If you want to go looking on LJ try spangelficfind , spangel_, if you don't mind AU's, just about everything by sexymermaid and as far as rec's go you can't beat danna7000 ! I hope that helps ;) Oh, and check your mail...

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justqueenie April 21 2007, 03:46:22 UTC
Dearest songfire, I knew I could count on you! Thank you so much for the links! I haven't had the chance to read any of the fics you sent me via email yet, but I’m sure I will once I'm done here. I had a peek at the lovely Duran fics you sent me, but I just couldn’t get into them *sad sigh* Oh well, it’s probably best that another OTP is not added to the already enormous slash orgy in my head. But that said? I’d so love to see Duran Duran live... What with the humping on stage... *drools* Ahem.

Anyhoo. I was just saying to sharon23 in my comment above, of what I've repeated to you before: I fear I’m spoiled from ever fully enjoying fic produced from a fandom other than DS. My standards for reading fic have become way too high. If only I could get a DS writer to write Spike/Angel... Hmm, you know what? I’m going to search and see if any of the big name writers from DS already have. (Or maybe it’s just that I’m so madly in love with DS fandom, that no other fandom beats it now, over the last year, other pairings have come and gone, but I ( ... )

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danna7000 May 8 2007, 01:42:07 UTC
Hope I’m not being inappropriate by butting in to your comment, but I just wanted to thank you for the lovely recommendation. It makes me happy to know others have enjoyed my recs.

Danna :)

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spankspike May 6 2007, 01:32:46 UTC
I was just reading the type of fic you're looking for, and I'd say that if anyone has ever done it, Jenny has. I already put the link to her website in my other comment - but it's www.lovethatdares.com ( ... )

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justqueenie May 8 2007, 00:10:36 UTC
Oh good god. Lovethatdares.com? Is amazing. I’ve only skimmed her stories so far and I can already see that she has the voices and the characters completely nailed. This woman is a genius! Wow. I’m totally blown away and I haven’t really gotten my teeth into it yet. I think I’m going to have to stay up extra late so I can finish reading 'Who can I turn to' - I'm hooked! Does Jenny have an LJ so I can leave the poor woman some cringe worthy but very squee like feedback?

Thank you SO MUCH for the rec. You are awesome! *hugs you tight*

You know, I’m finding the concept of everyone writing Angel as Spike’s sire incredibly interesting. From a sexual perspective, it hits all of my buttons, so maybe that’s why everyone chooses to write it like that. Or maybe it’s due to what tamibrandt said over in my introductory post on the spangel comm - that Joss had intended Angel to be Spike’s sire, but changed it half way through the series because WB was not happy with the homoerotic element of two male vampires biting each other. If this is the case, then ( ... )

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spankspike May 8 2007, 01:15:56 UTC
Jenny doesn't actually have a lj, but she does (or used to anyway) have a link somewhere on her site where you can access her email address and leave her feedback that way.

As for writing Angel as Spike's sire, and the reasons behind it - for me it's a combination of those two factors you mentioned, first that it was very obvious the show had intended for it to be that way and veered into other territory after things were already set up. Second is because for the purposes of their relationship, I think it adds another note of complexity if Angel is Spike's sire. It also hits my kink buttons for sexual reasons, because the sire/childe relationship between two vampires (when written as a sexual relationship) is not that far away from the daddy!kink that I already love.

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danna7000 May 8 2007, 01:31:26 UTC
Hi there ( ... )

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justqueenie May 14 2007, 01:36:25 UTC
Sorry it took me a while to reply to this ( ... )

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danna7000 May 8 2007, 01:32:07 UTC
Continued from previous post ( ... )

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justqueenie May 14 2007, 02:22:27 UTC
Angelus, being the most bad-ass vampire on the face of the earth in his day, was very abusive to Spike when they both ran together. Spike learned to see this abuse as the only show of love he would get.

Gosh, I felt so much of this in the episode 'Destiny.' I could almost feel Spike’s pain, the way in which Angel was beating him into submission, "You can take anything you want, have anything you want, but nothing is yours. Especially not her."

The scene in which Angel stands behind Drusilla, presenting her to Spike and says, "Come and take her," Spike jumps up and... Cut scene! I am fascinated as to why they chose to cut the scene there! What really happened? Did Spike go to Drusilla and fucked her while Angel held her and watched? (There must be a ton of fic dedicated to that scene!) Did they cut the scene in this way so I would think such a thing? Or did Spike attack Angel and Angel simply beat the crap out of him?

I can read a fic where they are in a loving domestic relationship one day and then another fic the next day where ( ... )

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danna7000 May 20 2007, 19:01:37 UTC
I'm envious that you are watching the episodes for the first time. I don't know of any fics that explore what happened when the scene cut in Destiny, but I'm sure there are some.

I also should have noted that the viewpoint I shared with you is a Spangel viewpoint. For Spander fans, the characterization of Spike and Angel may be slightly different.

Anyway, have fun, and if there is any way that I can help you, give me a holler. I hope you resolve your health issues and feel better soon.

Danna

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