interesting

[jynx1129]

I am sitting here in the computer lab and this girl(I believe she was Brazilian)turns to me and asked me this question. "A ship goes on a voyage.... at one point of the trip every part of the ship(inside and out) is replaced except for the frame or the foundation of it.. when it returns back from where it came from...... can one still consider it

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[blake2k4]

No. Of course the ship is a different ship. Because it's parts are replaced it takes on a completely different value mathematically. i.e. if the ship, upon leaving were to be scanned with a computer and turned into 0's and 1's, it would look different than when it's scanned upon it's return.

lol. I'm such an ass.... you'd better run into that girl again damn it!

[jynx1129]

no no no no you did not just compare it to computers to make me feel utterly stupid... you know what.......!!.

your right lol..

[blake2k4]

I beg to differ. You're absolutely not the same "you" that you were a nanosecond ago and neither is the ship. But 1. Of course it all depends on how you look at things. If I were to look at it another way I'd probably agree with you. 2. I'm too sleep deprived to argue my point any further.

[redchrono]

I think you guys are approaching the problem the wrong way. Comparing the ship to a peron and their personality is flawed, as the human being is WAY more complex than a ship could ever be.

The ship is being talked about only by its physicality, so you can't being a person's personality into it. Say a girl you knows goes out and gets a boob job, her ass tucked, and her stomach stapled. Is she a new girl? Not by my definition. Same person with just a different paint job really.

Also let's say the Titanic is brought up from the ocean and is restored. Obviously, they need to throw some stuff out and bring in brand new parts, floor tiles, wood, etc. Is it a new ship? Hell no. It's the Titanic, foo.

So I'm disagreeing with both of you, in saying that no, its still the exact same ship.

[drdreswankey]

i agree with dewey. i mean blake when u r scanning this ship wit a computer somehow... lolz u are scanning all of its parts arent u? so even by just removing or replacing one thing... like a toilet for example, wouldnt it still have a different number code? it would probably be almost identical... but itd still be a different code right? i duno, i may be thinking about it totally wrong cuz i have no idea how the 0/1 computer code works lolz. but i mean just cuz u change things doesnt make it new...

and about a person... sure, the person would be totally different mentally. but... it still has the same name on the birth certificate right? ;)

[blake2k4]

Finally... Andrea, I would beg to differ one last time... you can read the above posts of mine though. I'm coughing and have a splitting headache as I type.

[blake2k4]

I would beg to differ here as well. As long as one is taking in new information, he/she changes. ANY new information in ANY way. ::sigh:: again I'm too sleep deprived and sick to argue my point further. :-\