MY THOUGHTS, I SHOW YOU THEM.

[kaerstyne]

So this...started off as just me putting a note in a text file to add to an entry later, except then I started babbling and now there is a full-fledged entry on a completely different topic. /dies

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[laenavesse]

I TOLD YOU YOU'D LIKE WHITE COLLAR BUT NOOOOOOOOO. 8|

Anyway, about the whole "fictional characters social behaviors being more socially accurate" thing, I think you have a good point, but I guess because writers write for the "entertainment" aspect, they try to hit at least the most commonly known aspects of that behavior instead of trying to be so detailed and accurate. Most writers just probably can't pull it off :|a;

Also, it's probably harder to be as specific because a lot of people probably DO fall into the generic category, and others have other problems or more specific tendencies that would make them different than what is commonly known.

...So in other words, writers and people just go with the stereotype >>; Since it's purposefully made for entertainment and not like a documentary, it's not as prudent to be 100% accurate. ...If they did we'd probably get something like Lord of the Rings length ahahaha.

[kaerstyne]

YOU DIDN'T SAY WHY I'D LIKE IT 8|

Well, I'm not saying I want the entire focus of the shows to be on that person's psychological issues. But there's a lot of cases where it really wouldn't take a lot of extra time to address the issues. I want them to be accurate, not detailed. A couple extra lines and altered behaviors would be nice.

Sometimes it's not even a case of a generic type of a disorder versus a specific type. Sometimes they just use the stereotype of that disorder, and the stereotype actually isn't the most common type of the disorder, or it's just plain fucking wrong.

I see your point, but it's a pretty well-known rule of writing that STEREOTYPES ARE BAD. It's easier, sure, but doing something just because it's easier is lazy. And I do not like lazy writing. And I want more maladjusted people in fiction, dammit.

[laenavesse]

Well I wasn't really supporting either way, just stating my own observations xD But yeah, I see your point.

Of course these kind of things are more noticeable/seem more important to those who are actually affected by them. And I wouldn't necessarily say it's "easier" due to laziness...more like it's easier for them to understand. The writer that is. Not all writers are psychologists who can delve deeply into the mind of all their characters.

Well, unless if it's just like. Focused on one main character. THEN there should be no excuse of actually fully understanding that person's behavior and making it more accurate. In that case I'm fully on board. But if you're dealing with a slew of characters, then going at least 85% where you don't look retarded and majorly screw something up...I could let that slide at least. Writers have deadlines and all so sometimes you have to sacrifice some things just to get the final product.

[kaerstyne]

True. I am far more likely to point out OMG THAT'S NOT HOW X DISORDER WORKS than OMG THAT'S RACIST. And if the writer doesn't have some kind of experience with whatever it is, then yeah, it's going to be a harder for them to write it. But that's the whole point of research. People write serial killers, and I would hope they don't have any personal experience with how serial killers work, but they can write them anyway because they researched them. And white people can write black people. And straight people can write gay people. Etc. If you're going to have a character that has a certain trait, be it race or sexuality or mental health weirdness, you should take the time to do it properly, personal experience or no personal experience

[plural_force]

Just. This. Media really needs to have more accurate portrayals of psychological disorders and the like

[kaerstyne]

If TV is to be believed, all OCD people are obsessive about being neat and clean and they must wipe their hands after touching anything and everything must always be in groups of three. I do not think that's how it actually works for a lot of people. The portrayal on CM was actually kind of interesting, it's just that the way the focus was presented irked me

[plural_force]

Exactly :/

I knooow. I wanted to go D8 And they were laughing and making fun of it and I wanted to smack them -o-

It was done pretty well, I think. He was the killer in the end, but... idk, I think it worked better than usual? (Mostly I recall something about the personalities not being able to, y'know, communicate with each other inside their head... not that I know very much about DID, but I do recall this being the case. Also, the tattoo appearing on her shoulder when Jessica is out as opposed to Niki... yeah.) And Psych did a good job with it. I actually didn't have a problem with the bit where he noticed something he hadn't before, because it's Shawn. The thing about him is that he has a photographic memory and an insane amount of attention to detail, so the two combined actually make the "looking at a picture in your head" thing work-- because he's actually consciously studying and remembering things on reflex. (See, there was this one drama I watched an episode of where the girl could just glance around a room for a

[kaerstyne]

At some point I will probably find an analysis of how the OCD works in Monk and read it. I'm curious. Since, y'know, from the bits of Monk I've seen the OCD just seems like a stereotypical gimmick...

Okay making fun of psychopaths just seems dumb in general. I mean, either they're a perfectly decent person and you're going to do horrible things to their self-worth, or they're crazy and will one day do horrible evil things, possibly because you ruined their self-worth. How does this end well?

True. (Ah. I think there might be some type of issue where you actually can communicate with the other personality, but it depends on what exactly the disorder is. I do not remember the details. ...and the tattoo thing is just stupid, everyone knows that's not physically possible.) I do think it worked much better for Shawn because they explained it as him noticing everything at the time, and then having really fucking good memory of it later. So if he saw something for a really short period of time, and remembered it perfectly later, it's