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Feb 22, 2005 22:42

Obscurity is a terrible fate.

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anonymous February 23 2005, 12:57:20 UTC
Notoriety can be just as bad, depending on what event or characteristic brings one fame.

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kamikazitaxi February 23 2005, 19:10:23 UTC
There are hundreds of thousands of Mongols that lived what seemed to be very important lives at the time that no one will ever remember. They have been completely forgotten despite whatever achievements they achieved in their short lives. The only one anyone remembers is Genghis Khan. A man who would kill every man, woman, child, horse, and dog in a village and stack their skulls in a pile as a warning.

Who achieved immortality?

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cameraman23 February 23 2005, 20:27:49 UTC
Well, Kubla Khan, too.

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kamikazitaxi February 23 2005, 22:35:44 UTC
Primarily Genghis. But point.

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I must say that I agree... haideetepilini February 23 2005, 20:48:56 UTC
"The obscure only exists that it may cease to exist."
Henri-Frédéric Amiel

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt

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