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erica057 June 7 2007, 11:27:06 UTC
Those are some preeeetty old citations...I dunno how much a study on protein powder from 1971 is relevant now.

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suprchargr77 June 8 2007, 02:09:50 UTC
I must concur, Sweetie...either you need newer sources (from within the last 10 years) or you need to do new research. *smiles*

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kamitatsubane June 8 2007, 09:06:48 UTC
True, very true. These are from Sally Fallon's book, which was first published about a decade ago. I'll find my own articles at some point. These are just from one side of the issue.

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chrononuriko June 7 2007, 20:41:57 UTC
While there is some truth in all that, it's very very hideously exagerrated and deceptive.

Yes, phytates 'inhibit' protein digestion to an extent. An extent that hardly matters so long as you're still getting adequate protein. So your body only digests 95% of the protein instead of 100%, big deal. All that stuff makes it sound like you'll be at risk for protein deficiency when it's clearly not the case. This isn't a rare thing that applies only to soy and protein either...not everything that goes into your body is absorbed to its full potential, based on tons and tons of complex factors that are too overwhelming to worry about.

That said, soy is way overused these days when there are much better plant based complete proteins out there (amaranth, hemp, etc)...not to mention complete proteins are hardly essential and highly overstated anyhow.

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kamitatsubane June 8 2007, 09:08:57 UTC
My huge issue is with the phytoestrogens. Really, I believe the same as you. We don't absorb any of our food completely. And so much of it has to do with proper food combining. I think too many people prefer soy protein isolate and crap like that. I think that if people would just supplement their diets with a little bit of fermented soy, that they'd benefit. I'm allergic to American soy, but I have nothing against Natto made from Japanese soy. Good stuff. Never had a problem with it. And I actually like the taste.

You're so right. We don't have to eat all the "essential" proteins at the same meal. And what's all this about TEN essential amino acids, now? Didn't it used to be eight? Jeez.

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whereswilliam July 3 2007, 13:31:43 UTC
To read later: http://www.foodrevolution.org/what_about_soy.htm
How is your review of the other side of the debate?

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