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[karmahappens]

I need to vent for a moment. (However, unlike my angry rants, this will be a semi-articulate and quasi-intelligent rant. And unlike all my other entries, this one's public because I want people to read it... who knows, maybe someone out there will take something helpful from it

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[lmjvp]

That is an incredibly intelligent, obviously well thought out, and straight to the point argument and I am glad that you posted it. I, too, am pro-gay marriage, and you gave me some things to think about that no one had before. I always appreciate another point of view, especially when it is honest and heartfelt and not coming from discrimination and hatred.

I only know one gay couple who consider themselves "married" and I know them well enough to know that they are among the few couples whose relationship validates this even though a marriage license doesn't. They *were* married during the brief time that San Francisco was allowing gay marriage, and although those licenses were invalidated after the fact, those two men still consider themselves married and I will always consider them to be married. They set a great example for not only gay marriage, but marriage in general. I don't know many straight couples who are as committed and compatible as they are.

[karmahappens]

Thank you! I'm glad I could bring in an additional point of view for you to consider.

Your friends sound like a very admirable couple, and I wish people like them were given the opportunity to marry legally. Couples like that, as you said, truly do set a good example for the insitution no matter what genders are involved. Unfortunately, I've seen/met way too many bad examples that make me understand why legislators and half of America don't support it, and that makes me incredibly sad.

[jmp419]

I think you're being a tad unfair. There are churches that allow gay marriages, and there are couples who go through that ceremony. And go on to change their names legally.

There are straight people who go through and are "married" to their partner but don't go through any of the legallities of it. So..... anyways end point....

[karmahappens]

I understand your point, but...
1. Yes, a church may allow a "marriage" between a same-sex couple, but that doesn't make it recognized by the state and it doesn't mean that the couple receives the same rights as a opposite-sex couple. Going through the ceremony doesn't make them "married" according to the law.

2. And those people are not the ones I'm talking about. I have nothing wrong with couples--whether straight or gay--who are committed to each other through a long-lasting relationship. The type of people I'm referencing here are the ones who meet someone and within a few months are "married" without really being married. *That's* who I have a problem with.