Clayfeet

Oct 30, 2010 19:27

From now on, I'll be posting about Islam, Islamophobia, Park51, etc etc etc, over at my main lj, dreamer_easy.

In the comments to my first post on the whole Elizabeth Moon/Park51 mishegoss, I said this:"In the seventies, Black feminist Audre Lorde wrote to Mary Daly criticising the absence of African goddesses from Daly's book Gyn/Ecology. When she received ( Read more... )

islamophobia, park51, feminism, debunking

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jblum October 30 2010, 08:54:18 UTC
In any case, I myself am (alas) a racist;

No, love, you aren't. Quoting David Gerrold doesn't have the same cachet as Mary Daly, but he taught us another trick with language; remember that first writing insight he gave us -- defining someone's character as a Jew, a black, ahomosexual, even a racist, kills them stone dead. A much saner way is to look at it as someone who is black, is Jewish, or has Jewish attitudes, or has gay leanings -- or even, despite her best efforts, has racist thoughts lurking in there.

Plus, that phrasing makes it that much harder for people to rip your words out of context...

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kateorman October 30 2010, 08:57:47 UTC
Plus that "alas" could look like sarcasm rather than regret. Hang about, I'll edit that bit.

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kateorman October 30 2010, 08:59:49 UTC
PS They don't need to take my words out of context - if I don't say something sufficiently outrageous, they'll just make something up. :D

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hiraethin October 31 2010, 00:18:29 UTC
I have been watching this situation with great interest - and your comments on it, of course, given that I am both a friend of yours and a fan of Ms. Moon.

I must applaud this post - it is my opinion that we should respect and admire people for their acts which we feel are worthy of respect and admiration, without condoning their acts which we feel are not, or even while we criticise their acts which we feel deserve the same.

Also, it's hard to write about discovering flaws in your heroes.

For me, agreeing on ground rules about how to disagree is much more important than the subject of disagreement - because reasonable people can disagree reasonably. Otherwise how can great friendships grow between people of widely divergent faiths, political orientations, or other views?

Nice one Kate.

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kateorman November 1 2010, 13:07:35 UTC
*tips hat* Ay thenk yew!

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