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[katykins_wetgal]

Further to my latest update, here is the documentary I was discussing in full:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638&q=climate+change+swindle

Comments

[benprime]

excellent, thanks for posting that. Seems like it's getting hit hard.. 'this video is not available at the moment'.

Thing is... I'm starting to doubt the certainty of the (human-caused) global warming thesis myself. Up till this point I have taken people's word that it's happening and that the science is sound, and that no longer seems entirely justified. On the other hand, the opposition to the Global Warming hypothesis (see for example the FAQ page of the Science & Environmental Policy Project, which also declares that the ozone depletion due to CFCs is likely exaggerated) seems dubious as well. For example, the assertion on that page that in order to cut carbon dioxide emissions by 60-80% we would have to cut energy use by that same amount, and that this will "ruin our economies" This, you may recall, is the same rhetoric which Bush uses to oppose US ratification of the Kyoto protocol, and turns out to be the same as that which the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)'s Co-Vice President Yuri A. Izrael uses to

[katykins_wetgal]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4520665474899458831

Try that link instead.

[benprime]

yes, that one works fine, thanks (that's a hat-trick). I have just watched the documentary (07:00GMT, march 14th) and actually it wasn't 1.25 hours of rubbish. It may have manipulated some of the interviews and quotes, but it also pointed out what seem like some fairly likely truths, such as the now-huge vested interests in the Global Warming thesis. Some of the science might have been dodgy (and in fact now contradicted by improved studies) but the politics and social aspects may still be relevant. What was most interesting (and difficult to dispute) is the claim that that, following the collapse of communism in the CCCP in the mid 80s, many political activists moved into the environmental movement and learnt to cloak their 'neo-marxist views' in green words. This pair of poles, Global-warming questioners versus global warming proponents, and capitalists versus what was made out to be extreme communists, is pretty interesting but may have been overstated by the documentary. However, it comes up again in connection with the so-called

[katykins_wetgal]

Here's an interesting - if long - article from The Guardian newspaper...

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2007/03/13/channel-4s-problem-with-science/