The downside of modern technology

Feb 09, 2009 15:57

There is clearly a downside to modern technology in education. You'd think having a school district that has the latest in computer technology would be a plus. But what happens when the teachers rely so heavily on the technology that they can't teach without it? My daughter found out today at her middle school -- apparently you do nothing all day ( Read more... )

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principia February 9 2009, 21:54:59 UTC
They can't take attendance? Attendance. Like they can't pass out a piece of paper with a pen for each period, have the kids pass the paper around and write their names down as they go. Or take verbal attendance from whatever printed roll they received at the beginning of the year?

No email? Try phone trees. (Well, unless the phone system is one that's dependent on electricity, which is not uncommon these days.)

Yearbook you can't do much about. Science class? Draw a table on a piece of paper and write the numbers down. Geography? Why is their fricking test on a PC? That requires net access? How secure is thatAnd that poor Algebra teacher who would be 'inconvenience[d]' by having to rewrite out material on the board? Yet they can use an overhead projector? PULL THE SCREEN DOWN OVER THE WRITING YOU DON'T WANT THE KIDS TO SEE BEFORE THE QUIZ, THEN ROLL IT BACK UP FOR AFTER THE QUIZ. I would seriously complain if that were one of my teachers ( ... )

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aibhinn February 10 2009, 00:53:41 UTC
I am SO not justifying what everyone did here (see my comment below), but there are a couple things I wanted to mention.

Or take verbal attendance from whatever printed roll they received at the beginning of the year?

Except that class rosters, at least in the districts where I've taught, almost NEVER stay the same through a school year, or even a semester. New kids come in; other kids leave; kids switch classes. My classes are different now from what they were on Jan 27th, the first day of the new semester, and they're WAY different from the first of the year. When the server's down, I usually have kids write down their names, the way you suggested.

Geography? Why is their fricking test on a PC? That requires net access? How secure is that?We use a web-based test-creation program called Moodle, that's designed to be used by schools. It's actually associated with our student records/gradebook/etc. program, which is also web-based and statewide. It's EXTREMELY secure; in fact, our new State Superintendent of Public Instruction is ( ... )

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kaylle February 10 2009, 01:22:51 UTC
Hi! I'm a teacher as well, so I'll agree with everything you said ;) Most of these things (like taking attendance) aren't impossible without technology, but a lot of them are computerized, and not having the computer slows us down a little ( ... )

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kb91 February 10 2009, 02:04:54 UTC
Yes, the Geography tests are done on Blackboard, and the kids get their scores immediately about finishing. So it made sense that those would be down.

As for the Algebra teacher, the funny thing is that she's a fabulous teacher otherwise and has done a lot towards making my non-math-loving daughter really enjoy her class. But most of the teachers in that school are very young -- early to mid 20's young. Very energetic, with lots of enthusiasm and passion and great ideas ... but clearly no idea how to work without the technology they have always used in their classes!

I'd hope that if the computers were down for longer than a day, she'd be able to adjust and be prepared to write on the board. But fortunately, I just got an email saying that the computers were back up in the district as of this evening, so they'll be able to go back to their modern ways. *g*

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un_sedentary February 9 2009, 22:19:32 UTC
... wow.

the teacher said it would be inconvenient (!) to write everything out on the board because she'd just have to erase it each period before the pre-material quiz, and rewrite everything again

So it would be inconvenient to use the erasable board because it would then fulfil EXACTLY ITS PURPOSE. XD

I have PROFESSORS who use the blackboard.

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kb91 February 10 2009, 02:20:43 UTC
So it would be inconvenient to use the erasable board because it would then fulfil EXACTLY ITS PURPOSE. XD

I know, LOL! I think it's just that all the teachers at the school are so young (22-27) that they've never had to do things the old-fashioned way. They are actually excellent teachers who really encourage my daughter to excel, but in this area, their age clearly works against them!

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un_sedentary February 10 2009, 02:39:44 UTC
You know, reading Kaylle and Aibhinn's replies, I feel like I seriously went to a prehisrotic high school... No one used Moodle (though my university uses it now) and all our tests and exams were on paper, and teachers used chalkboards (not even whiteboards!) and sometimes the overhead projector. (But they all knew how to set up the overhead projector. And also, the location of each department's OHPs.) (But we did have pretty good computer labs.)

Honestly, as a 20 year old, I assure you that I would not have wasted a period because it's inconvenient to have to erase the board later. ;) They may never have had to teach in a tech-deprived environment (although it's slightly unbelievable that they never did a practicum in a non-super-tech school), but I'm reasonably sure that when they were in high school (all of 10 years ago), their teachers used erasable boards, and probably didn't use Moodle.

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pgwfolc February 9 2009, 22:25:38 UTC
That's... amazing. And very sad.

Also reminds me of a news story I heard (here's a copy from the AP) about how there's a swath of Kentucky that still doesn't have power, thanks to that snowstorm, and... the nearby Amish communities are reaching out to help people deal.

Maybe your school needs to find some good old fashioned Amish teachers...

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kb91 February 10 2009, 02:06:27 UTC
Maybe your school needs to find some good old fashioned Amish teachers...

LOL, great suggestion. Or at least some teachers who are older than 27 and remember what it's like to do things the old-fashioned way!

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aibhinn February 10 2009, 00:45:38 UTC
(Linked here by wendymrI work in a very computerized district, but our internet connection goes down reasonably often, so I can sympathise with some of this. However, I CANNOT sympathise with the math teacher. I *am* a middle-school math teacher (7th grade), and I *do* write and erase and re-write stuff on the white board. Because I'm not, you know, RIDICULOUSLY LAZY AND INCOMPETENT ( ... )

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kb91 February 10 2009, 02:18:49 UTC
Thanks for chiming in. I was thinking about you when describing the math teacher because I know that's your area, as well. As I said in my reply to your comment above, the math teacher is actually very good overall. I think she's just so young that she's never had to do things the old-fashioned way!

can't you get, oh, I dunno, BUTCHER PAPER and write it on that, then take it down and put it back up again?

I guess the question would be whether they could find something like butcher paper in the school. After all, it took them half the class period to figure out whether there was an overhead projector and how to get it set up. Maybe they should have raided the art room instead. *g*

Luckily, I just got an email saying the computers were back up, so let's hope everything will be back to normal tomorrow!

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kaylle February 10 2009, 01:02:40 UTC
I'll chime in from the other side of this, being a comp-sci teacher in a very tech-savvy school. (Also, I'll note that I had a long day today so maybe I'm feeling a little adversarial, lol ( ... )

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kb91 February 10 2009, 02:13:14 UTC
To be fair, it's probably not that teachers can't teach without technology. (At least some of us.) It's that we can't necessarily rewrite our plans with no advance warning.

Yes, I do believe (or at least want to believe) that this is what it is. I would hope that if the computers were down again tomorrow, the teachers would have created alternative lesson plans so that they had a back-up plan and had to do things the old-fashioned way.

And I'm really glad to get your opinion on this because I was thinking of you when I was writing the post. Most of the teachers at this school are young -- 22-27 -- and while they are fabulously energetic and enthusiastic and creative, I think they've just never had to teach without the technology and didn't know what to do when confronted by the situation.

As for white boards, I think they're pretty common in schools these days, because chalk dust is both bad for kids' lungs and bad for computers. We don't have any chalkboards in our building. This makes sense. I had never thought of it before, ( ... )

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un_sedentary February 10 2009, 02:47:23 UTC
I'm a cashier and we did actually have a power outage at work yesterday - it only lasted a couple of seconds, thankfully, but only because we have a backup generator as the area was without power for over an hour.

We can't even do cash transactions without the computer, even if we know the price off the top of our heads. I need the computer to open the register, and every transaction needs to be recorded and done using the computer. Grocery store would definitely be down for business without power.

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