So, extending marriage to same-sex couples - a rare public post.

[kelemvor]

That letter from the Archbishop of Westminster...

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[lazy_hoor]

[kelemvor]

Well, quite. I need to talk to my grandmother soon - I might delicately ask what her feelings on the issue are.

[emmy_mallow]

As someone said on BBC Radio 4 over the weekend:

"The Catholic Church objecting to same sex marriage is a bit like saying 'Why do black people need seats on the front of the bus? They can sit at the back. I mean, everyone's on the bus, right? What's the problem?"

This particular Archbishop can fuck off and take everyone who agrees with his hateful shit to hell.

[kelemvor]

That's a parallel that I totally missed!

[emmy_mallow]

I really like it because it is a parallel and shows how cultures advance DESPITE the kind of hate-mongering shite that we hear from people like Archbishop Twonk in your post above.

[thalinoviel]

It was horrible listening to it at church on Sunday. It replaced Father Kevin's usual quite thoughtful homily which I always look forwards to. I have no idea if the others agreed with it or were just sitting there waiting for the hate and the stupid to please, please stop like I was... Which matters to me because they're people I like and generally consider decent. They've been amazingly loving to me, living in sin & now sprogging unwed.

Before I started to block it out the arguments appeared to divide roughly into:

Reasons why marriage is good (but would also be good for same-sex couples, except they can't make their own babies)

Marriage is for making babies (which calls into question the validity of childless marriages)

Marriage is between a man and a woman because, look, it just is, ok?

Which wasn't very convincing. Did I miss anything? I considered picking up the text so I could annotate the logical inconsistencies with my red pen & send it back to him to make corrections but then I saw a sign about it being impossible to win an

[kelemvor]

I cannot imagine listening to that much hatred pouring forth in the voice of someone for whom you had previously felt respect. Going to church is supposed to be a peaceful, gentle and above all loving weekly trip!

As it happens, I do know a Quaker. Can't answer about the singing, though. Given that their worship is generally conducted in silence, I would guess not.

[adelpha]

If you're into the singing side of celebrating faith, I met a woman who was... Charismatic, I think she called it. She described it as "a bit like gospel", and definitely went with the idea that people should be celebrating their faith rather than mourning it.