'Tis a puzzlement --and maybe racist misogyny, maybe misogynistic racism

[kestrelsparhawk]

I'm an American by birth. Maybe. *scratches head

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I hold no brief for 'birthers' as such.

[wemyss]

(I despise your president on the merits.) Nevertheless, your argument here is fatally undermined by a mistake of fact in what I take to be its major premiss. Learned friends confirm that George Romney (Mitt's father), Lowell Weicker, and John McCain were all, in their several presidential bids or tentative bids, subjected to challenge as to citizenship eligibility for that office - in McCain's case, before any such suggestions were made about Obama. In McCain's case, there were several lawsuits, and the matter sparked a joint bipartisan white paper by Ted Olson and Larry Tribe - and a US Senate resolution; and there remain rational, reputable law professors in America who argue even now, as an academic point, that in fact, due to a quirk in US statutory and common law, McCain is not in fact eligible to be elected president of the United States.

[kestrelsparhawk]

Ah, I see I am destined (doomed) to have political historians guarding my errors. Alas, in your case, I bet you also know such things as the origin of ladies leaving the table so that the gentlemen could take in some liquids and relieve themselves of others, which fits more with my brand of history. (I have no doubt your Blue political history refers to something other than a state. I can only say that from MY Hawkeye perspective, rhetorical history trumps social history trumps political history for a good explanation of cause and effect. Or maybe social trumps rhetorical; it depends if my materialist view is on top

My initial 'blue' was, naturally, Oxford.

[wemyss]

Politically ... see icon. (We are always diverted when Tory blue and Labour red, rosettes and all, are reversed in the US.)

I agree that there is much unreason in politics; and that it is, after all, show-business for very plain if not actually ugly people. When I say an MP is dishy for a politicians' standard, that is a certain value of dishiness that really doesn't say much....

[kestrelsparhawk]

Yes -- guessed it from the icon, actually. supposeif I were British I would have recognized the House? (Having read everything Dorothy Sayers, Ngaio Marsh, G.K. Chesterton, Agatha Christie, and Jane Austen ever wrote, I did acquire the phrase "Oxford Blue" somewhere.) I thank whatever thoughtful news editor person said, "No, better not make the Democrats red, that's the communist color and it'll be like an unfair editorial."

Dare I ask who you think is REALLY dishy? not just for a certain value of dishiness?