You weren't joking about automatically analysing things, were you? ;D I'm not sure I agree with some of your comments about Pink, but most of this is really good. Thanks :D
X_X Nope. And this was just off the top of my head. Imagine what this would have been like if I actually tried to organize it.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on Mr. Pink! The ones above were just sort of... off hand, general remarks, and he's got balancing factors, too, which I didn't really go into.
I'd assumed that Pink's criminal career wasn't an actual choice per se so much as something that just kind of happened - I'm basing this mainly on the fact that he says he's known Joe since he was a kid, which seems to suggest that he just sort of fell into the criminal underworld as opposed to it being a reaction to a disillusionment with society.
I would also say that it's not so much that he doesn't think people matter as he makes a clear distinction between what is and isn't his problem. Waitress makes crap money? Well, sucks to be her then, but...not his problem.
One scene in which I really, disproportionately noticed Pink's reaction was the one where they come back to the warehouse with the diamonds and find Blonde dead. It's easy to miss - since all the focus in that scene is on Eddie, White, and Orange - but when Pink sees what Blonde did to Marvin he looks absolutely horrified. As in, to the point of being physically nauseous.
Oh, and thanks for the age tip. Looking up when the songs came out hadn't even occurred to me.
Oh, I most definitely agree with you on how Pink got into crime. I have a feeling he grew up surrounded by crime, given his remark about how long he's known Joe, so it probably was just something guys of a certain age and a certain background did. No, I don't think he's some kind of renegade who all of a sudden decided to commit crimes because he hates society. XD I think he's aware of how much society is skewed, unlike most people. I think he's had personal experience with society fucking him over, and how he views crime is dependent on that.
he doesn't think people matter as he makes a clear distinction between what is and isn't his problem.
Definitely also agree with this, but I'd say that he does that by lumping people into categories- what happens to real people on his job depends on how professional he is, but otherwise, they're not something that he wants to worry about.
Pink sees what Blonde did to Marvin he looks absolutely horrified. As in, to the point of being physically nauseous. Oh, yeah, that jumped out at me, with
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The devil is in the details, or so they say. I think it's the details that really make the movie, and pulling them out is fun for me, and helps enrich the movie, really bring it alive.
I'd definitely say that White is one of the most old school of the gang, but that also means that he does have a certain level of class and sophistication, so I do agree with you.
But he probably wasn't always that way, and I'd hazard a guess and say a lot of it rubbed off on him from Joe. I mean, White calls Joe "Papa", so they're really pretty close, and Joe's definitely mafia. Just like the same way the thuggish Blonde appreciates fine liquor- through Joe introducing him to it.
Not to say White hasn't been that way for a long time, and I'm guessing he's been professional and classy for as long as he's been in with Joe. If we take Orange as an example, armed robbery usually doesn't breed a high-class lifestyle (his crimes were robbing gas stations and poker games).
I've got some stuff for White, lemme dig it up, and I'll write it up for you...
Yeah, totally missed White's wink, too, since I was busy watching how Orange was really quite tense during Joe and White's exchange, like he was expecting a fight. It was cute, like White was trying to signal to the kid he was just having fun.
Also, go here to see White's rap sheet from the movie, you'll get a lot of good info from it.
God, this is an awesome post. Are you gonna do any more of other scenes?
his youth is constantly being capitulated on throughout the movie.
From what I remember of the original script, his costume for meeting Holdaway in the diner was going to be a high school letterman jacket. (And interestingly, iirc, in the original script, Eddie suggests Pink was a dishwasher when he worked minimum wage as he mentions, and 'couldn't get' a waiter job; which plays in with the point you made about how he couldn't/didn't become wealthy legitimately.
I remember reading that jacket thing. And was thankful they didn't. But it would have definitely served its purpose, wouldn't it?
Here's a few more links to observation posts about Res. Dogs. If you're wondering, these were to help out an RP group get inspiration for their respective characters. Sadly, it didn't take.
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I'd like to hear your thoughts on Mr. Pink! The ones above were just sort of... off hand, general remarks, and he's got balancing factors, too, which I didn't really go into.
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I would also say that it's not so much that he doesn't think people matter as he makes a clear distinction between what is and isn't his problem. Waitress makes crap money? Well, sucks to be her then, but...not his problem.
One scene in which I really, disproportionately noticed Pink's reaction was the one where they come back to the warehouse with the diamonds and find Blonde dead. It's easy to miss - since all the focus in that scene is on Eddie, White, and Orange - but when Pink sees what Blonde did to Marvin he looks absolutely horrified. As in, to the point of being physically nauseous.
Oh, and thanks for the age tip. Looking up when the songs came out hadn't even occurred to me.
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he doesn't think people matter as he makes a clear distinction between what is and isn't his problem.
Definitely also agree with this, but I'd say that he does that by lumping people into categories- what happens to real people on his job depends on how professional he is, but otherwise, they're not something that he wants to worry about.
Pink sees what Blonde did to Marvin he looks absolutely horrified. As in, to the point of being physically nauseous. Oh, yeah, that jumped out at me, with ( ... )
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I'd definitely say that White is one of the most old school of the gang, but that also means that he does have a certain level of class and sophistication, so I do agree with you.
But he probably wasn't always that way, and I'd hazard a guess and say a lot of it rubbed off on him from Joe. I mean, White calls Joe "Papa", so they're really pretty close, and Joe's definitely mafia. Just like the same way the thuggish Blonde appreciates fine liquor- through Joe introducing him to it.
Not to say White hasn't been that way for a long time, and I'm guessing he's been professional and classy for as long as he's been in with Joe. If we take Orange as an example, armed robbery usually doesn't breed a high-class lifestyle (his crimes were robbing gas stations and poker games).
I've got some stuff for White, lemme dig it up, and I'll write it up for you...
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Also, go here to see White's rap sheet from the movie, you'll get a lot of good info from it.
http://khronos-keeper.livejournal.com/182913.html
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his youth is constantly being capitulated on throughout the movie.
From what I remember of the original script, his costume for meeting Holdaway in the diner was going to be a high school letterman jacket.
(And interestingly, iirc, in the original script, Eddie suggests Pink was a dishwasher when he worked minimum wage as he mentions, and 'couldn't get' a waiter job; which plays in with the point you made about how he couldn't/didn't become wealthy legitimately.
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I remember reading that jacket thing. And was thankful they didn't. But it would have definitely served its purpose, wouldn't it?
Here's a few more links to observation posts about Res. Dogs. If you're wondering, these were to help out an RP group get inspiration for their respective characters. Sadly, it didn't take.
http://khronos-keeper.livejournal.com/182717.html
http://khronos-keeper.livejournal.com/182913.html
http://khronos-keeper.livejournal.com/183956.html
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Thanks for the links - love the 'dislikes cats' on White's rap sheet. Random.
I think the first post is f-locked, though?
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Lock removed, you should be able to see it now.
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