Urban farming--a synthesis of farm and skyscraper--has become a viable alternative to the traditional industrial farm. Single vertical farms can feed many thousand people; Las Vegas is scheduled to have one built by 2010 that will feed 76,000 and Toronto is considering a vertical farm as well. They are self-sustaining buildings that take in more
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i can say that if by 2040 the world had these in every urban area supporting at least half the population at a positive energy return .... which they say they could do...
and also if there was equipment replacements in wearhouses for the next three hundred years
then mayyybe
civilization
wouldnt
collapse
get on it micheal
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even if it is them doing something in "self interest"
because they are bad judges of self interest
b)i dont want fields of sand... i don't want survival i want life ...
i don't want civilization if it means no rivers or animals....
c)part of the problem is civilization will carry right on...
like it is today and tommorow
and thats a path of genocide ecocide overpopulation and exploitation
d)predicting something especialy technology and its deveopment and utilization is dangerous < at least when i say civilization is going to collapse... i say so meaning at its current rate of growth, because their are no signs of slowing it down and very few of sustainable developments within it.... but predicting vf's growth seems optimist and premature ( ... )
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b) i don't want fields of sand, either. and we weren't talking about whether or not you wanted civilization, we were talking about whether or not it was going to collapse.
c) and i don't think those things are inherent in civilization, and i am made more sure of it by the feasibility of things like vertical farming.
d) i don't think it is a dangerous prediction. a lot of things, once capitalists realize their profitability, change rapidly, sometimes nearly constantly. it is a tendency of capitalism to do so. there are many examples, from railcars to desktops.
are they stealing water? or are they treating and cycling through brown and black water, as is suggested by the VF site?
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