hey, it's nice to see an update from you, even if the content isn't the happiest thing in the world. sorry to hear about what happened... but you deserve something much better.
best of luck with everything. i'll send you another email sometime soon... because it's nice to keep in touch.
So go ahead and roll your eyes (I'm looking in your direction Tom)
Hahaha.
Anyhow, that sucks. I'm sorry. My last relationship went to hell fast as well, and we had tons of sex. Oh well. Four weeks really isn't that long though.
Question: How long, in your mind, would have been appropriate in order to have sex? Or is it more so a question of the quality and security of the relationship?
I was sort of hoping it would work about between Katie and this guy so I wouldn't have to be right again, which is actually pretty boring (don't you agree Bill?).
I pretty much had sex by the second date, if not first if its available, back when I actually used to pursue women. I guess I was under the impression that our Katie was (insert locker room talk here), but I guess I was wrong, or I didn't understand her posts.
I was wondering how Katie was gonna be a step-mom and all, but I guess I will never find out.
Oh well. Sounds like the guy had some fun for awhile. What else is new.....
Um thank for the kind words? Ha! Well, this world is full of all kinds of people with different views on sex and relationships. Most guys do want to have sex asap, but what truly separates the men from the boys is who will wait if they see potential.
Sorry to hear about that. Relationships can really mess people up. They can really suck. Fortunately, they can also be really cool, so I guess that's why we all keep trying.
It sounds like Tony has some issues he needs to work through.
Remember a long long time ago, in the days of yore, when I said I wasn't looking for a husband? I'm still not too keen on getting married. For the life of me, I can't see myself in marriage. It's just too unlike me.
Anyway, what do you mean 'what should I do with myself'? You're obviously not on the wife-hunt...
Wow, haven't heard from you for a lil' while and now a gusher!
Yeah, I'll basically repeat what other folks said and offer my condonences. At least you had some good times though, just remember those.
Sometimes I think one basic difference between men and women is how women could almost get by on emotional closeness alone in a relationship. Heck, not in the same room even? No problem- email, phone call. It's the guys that have the "I miss your physical presence" crap. Or maybe it's just me who knows =p
Welp, take it easy Katie, just one more fish back into the pond :)
You know what is interesting? There is this extremely thin line when it comes to physicality. It isn't necessarily true that women can get by without intimacy. In fact, it's quite the opposite. The line is drawn, however, and excuse my French...at penetration. This event doesn't even compare to the bells and whistles or tricks of the trade that surround it. Women are after that 'other stuff.' We're also huge fans of the before and after. The foreplay and, aww, the post-coital cuddling. Now add the fact that we have to worry about getting pregnant, which can occasionally act as a black cloud. AND throw in the emotional connection we make with the act. As I told Bill, we're the ones being 'invaded' and it can feel overpowering if the woman isn't ready. Thus, and I'm not saying all women are like this, many are extremely content with simply lying in bed, some making out, and other 'touchy feeling' acts
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I think it's a case of "never having enough". Once a person gets a bit he or she will want more, while when the person doesn't get a darn thing then anything would do. Haha, yeah- nature of the beast.
I agree with that penetration thing. While I couldn't really imagine it, it's obvious who is (pardon the expression) getting the shaft.
There is a small minority of men who won't insist on penetration with women because they don't want to risk an unplanned pregnancy either. After all, a lazy woman with a kid doesn't help us out at all. So, you can probably find guys who will do all the other stuff just because they won't feel that its a good risk to take to go "all the way". What I often miss is the simple sleeping next to someone and going out for breakfast and spending the afternoon together sort of stuff that is unique to a couple. There is no risks, and no worries about the night before and so on. Besides, the walls are thin where I live and my neighbors get grouchy if "stuff" is happening in the morning.
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best of luck with everything. i'll send you another email sometime soon... because it's nice to keep in touch.
talk to you soon.
- nat
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Hahaha.
Anyhow, that sucks. I'm sorry. My last relationship went to hell fast as well, and we had tons of sex. Oh well. Four weeks really isn't that long though.
Question: How long, in your mind, would have been appropriate in order to have sex? Or is it more so a question of the quality and security of the relationship?
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I was sort of hoping it would work about between Katie and this guy so I wouldn't have to be right again, which is actually pretty boring (don't you agree Bill?).
I pretty much had sex by the second date, if not first if its available, back when I actually used to pursue women. I guess I was under the impression that our Katie was (insert locker room talk here), but I guess I was wrong, or I didn't understand her posts.
I was wondering how Katie was gonna be a step-mom and all, but I guess I will never find out.
Oh well. Sounds like the guy had some fun for awhile. What else is new.....
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Um thank for the kind words? Ha! Well, this world is full of all kinds of people with different views on sex and relationships. Most guys do want to have sex asap, but what truly separates the men from the boys is who will wait if they see potential.
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I'm sure they would appreciate having you for a girlfriend, and you could accomplish all these things you are looking for.
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It sounds like Tony has some issues he needs to work through.
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Any thoughts on what I should do with myself?
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Anyway, what do you mean 'what should I do with myself'? You're obviously not on the wife-hunt...
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You don't want a husband but you want a relationship? What would a committed long term serious relationship be, if not a husband?
Oh, I just threw the second question out for an interesting response. It doesn't even make sense, but that usually generates good answers.
My Brett Favre look-a-like friend is still available if you have any interest. That way, if I find a chick, we can go on a double date. :)
Wouldn't that be FUN? A DOUBLE DATE with Tom??
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Yeah, I'll basically repeat what other folks said and offer my condonences. At least you had some good times though, just remember those.
Sometimes I think one basic difference between men and women is how women could almost get by on emotional closeness alone in a relationship. Heck, not in the same room even? No problem- email, phone call. It's the guys that have the "I miss your physical presence" crap. Or maybe it's just me who knows =p
Welp, take it easy Katie, just one more fish back into the pond :)
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I agree with that penetration thing. While I couldn't really imagine it, it's obvious who is (pardon the expression) getting the shaft.
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