Comments | kiri_koli: Behold, the curse of Stacey!! All shall tremble at my lack of money-making skills!!!!

kiri_koli

Behold, the curse of Stacey!! All shall tremble at my lack of money-making skills!!!!

Jul 25, 2005 21:25

So, it's been a while. I considered updating a coupla times over the last week, but I was too lazy. I was going to write about Washington D.C. but I really just don't feel like it. I mean, it was fun, but it wasn't anything special. My family never quite relaxed enough to enjoy it overall...though we had our moments. Sam was fun, but my ( Read more... )

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spo_4813 July 26 2005, 05:51:05 UTC

I think the word you were looking for was "scabbard."

kiri_koli July 27 2005, 01:04:27 UTC

Nah...I know that's the general term, but I think they called them something else...I'll find out next weekend.

chissphile_sum July 26 2005, 06:07:18 UTC

I remember visiting the Holocaust musuem in 1996 (i don't know how much it has changed since then-the Daniel thing sound unfamiliar, but I could just have forgotten it). Part of it was ruined for me, because there was this group of about three 6 year olds, that could (or would) not take it seriously. I thought it was a good place. Pity that after half a century, hate speech against culutures still exist. How much of the holocaust could have been avoided, had the major world powers not given into appeasement?

kiri_koli July 27 2005, 01:11:13 UTC

I think the Daniel thing was new, as were two exhibits we didn't get to cuz after five hours or so, I was the only one who wanted to stay. One was on Nazi medicine and I can't remember that other.

I was pissed at that too...I didn't encounter any really rude kids, but I can't understand why anyone would bring a child to a place like that unless they really understood something about it and wanted to go. There were tons of bored kids...it was stupid. The adults were worse though, standing right in front of displays and such.

The one thing that was new to me was how long the US actually knew about the concentration camps. For some reason, I was under the impression that we really had no idea and that we only found out the extent of it when it was right in front of us. I really don't know where I got that idea...but I was very disgusted when I read about what really happened.

hawaiianham July 27 2005, 01:46:20 UTC

I showed a video last semester where this Holocaust survivor was telling her story, and the kids just sat and made fun of her accent the entire time. Children are truly another incomprehensible species.

hawaiianham July 26 2005, 16:14:02 UTC

I don't know what the SA thread was about specifically...but I once heard that there is no historical evidence that Jews were enslaved in Egypt, except for the evidence in the bible. Is this true?

kiri_koli July 27 2005, 01:33:10 UTC

Though we're not 100% sure, of course, it's a really really safe bet that the events as written did not occur. I would go as far as to say that the written version isn't even close to anything in reality as there is a significant lack of evidence of mass slavery at all in Egypt; they did have slaves, but a slave force as big as the one suggested in the Bible would leave evidence that simply doesn't exist. Besides that, there is increasing evidence to support the idea that workers and artisans were prized members of society and were provided with food, clothing, etc. while they worked even as far back as the Old Kingdom. Actually, we've had evidence for the Middle and New Kingdoms in the form of worker camps that displays no mechanisms for slavery and good working conditions for a long time. Everyone just likes to ignore that evidence. It's getting more popular now that similar camps have been found at Giza, debunking that idea that the pyramids were built by slaves ( ... )

hawaiianham July 27 2005, 01:41:49 UTC

Yea I just wonder because if there is no historical evidence of Jews being held as slaves in Egypt, then they were never led to the "promised land" and the entire idea that Israel is "theirs" and "god gave it them", etc is bullshit.

Anyway, have you ever read anything about aliens building the pyramids? Or about spaceships and stuff in hieroglyphics? Seriously.

kiri_koli July 27 2005, 02:43:45 UTC

Eh, the whole Exodus and 'promised land' thing always seemed to me just more of the persecution theme the whole religion has going on. Not a big deal really, except that it's lead sooo many people to believe stupid things about Egypt. Even after all I said in the thread, there's still some guy talking about some crackpot theory supported by bricks made without straw during Rameses' reign...which he contests is interesting because it shows that materials used on the *pyramids* during the time the Hebrews were there, blah, blah, blah...it makes me want to give up. It wouldn't be so bad if people really knew *nothing* about Egypt...hell, I know nothing about other early African peoples, but I *admit* it. So many people go around spouting bullshit like they know ( ... )

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