Just saving something for thought.
Man, I never post to this thing do I?
Anyhow.. just something I wanna save.
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Phil Herup: Inquisitive Inquisitor: Civil unions do not convey the full manner of rights found in "traditional" marriages. We're not arguing semantics, if civil unions mimicked marriage in all respects, including federal recognition, I'd be the first to say that heterosexual couples could keep marriage.
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In what respect do they not give the same rights as traditional marriage? I thought they did.
/they should, no doubt.
Um. ALL of them?
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Seriously PHil. I HAD a CU, OK?
In retrospect, after all the probate was done when hubby died. It NEVER mattered - the CU was completely worthless, because every agency I dealt with (in a state that has gay marriage) didn't accept it. It was always superceded by something else, that didn't allow for a CU to use used as a legally-recognized document: it was "marriage license or nothing".
This had implications ALL the way from death benefits down to getting his clothes from the ER. While the PEOPLE were largely sympathetic and apologized - their hands were tied: Civil unions are completely and absolutely not recognized by anyone.
HAD I had a marriage license, I would've saved a lot of my own money. First I wouldn't have had to hire a probate lawyer for the non-existent estate, just to avoid the additional hassles of trying to get through the legal code just to be the primary executor (there wasn't any problem with this from HIS family - it only mattered to the court, who had me contact every blood relative down to the level of first-cousins ONCE REMOVED) to see if any of them wanted the duty...
It was only at THAT point where the paperwork could go in and be processed. Nine months after he died.
I'm STILL waiting for the 2007 tax refund --- I need that to pay the funeral director.
So - now you're informed. I trust that you will no longer be quite as emphatic about your former opinion since you've consulted with someone who has actual experience dealing with the consequences of a CU over a ML.
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Anyhow.. just something I wanna save.
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Phil Herup: Inquisitive Inquisitor: Civil unions do not convey the full manner of rights found in "traditional" marriages. We're not arguing semantics, if civil unions mimicked marriage in all respects, including federal recognition, I'd be the first to say that heterosexual couples could keep marriage.
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In what respect do they not give the same rights as traditional marriage? I thought they did.
/they should, no doubt.
Um. ALL of them?
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Seriously PHil. I HAD a CU, OK?
In retrospect, after all the probate was done when hubby died. It NEVER mattered - the CU was completely worthless, because every agency I dealt with (in a state that has gay marriage) didn't accept it. It was always superceded by something else, that didn't allow for a CU to use used as a legally-recognized document: it was "marriage license or nothing".
This had implications ALL the way from death benefits down to getting his clothes from the ER. While the PEOPLE were largely sympathetic and apologized - their hands were tied: Civil unions are completely and absolutely not recognized by anyone.
HAD I had a marriage license, I would've saved a lot of my own money. First I wouldn't have had to hire a probate lawyer for the non-existent estate, just to avoid the additional hassles of trying to get through the legal code just to be the primary executor (there wasn't any problem with this from HIS family - it only mattered to the court, who had me contact every blood relative down to the level of first-cousins ONCE REMOVED) to see if any of them wanted the duty...
It was only at THAT point where the paperwork could go in and be processed. Nine months after he died.
I'm STILL waiting for the 2007 tax refund --- I need that to pay the funeral director.
So - now you're informed. I trust that you will no longer be quite as emphatic about your former opinion since you've consulted with someone who has actual experience dealing with the consequences of a CU over a ML.
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