Stupid fail!pony. :|
I'm trying to find out more about Harley's demon form.
Walkthroughs have given me this much:
HP: 560-600
MP: ???
level: ???
Null: Fire, Ailment/Status, Hama, Mudo
Weak: Ice
Skills:
Attack (phys)
Skewer (fire)
Fire Storm (fire - all)
Void Ice
And additional walkthroughs tell me that in DDS 2, he drains fire, has a far higher HP, can do the Psycho Rage trick, and you should be at like, level 50 or so to face him.
Uh, yeah. So, nothing new there. :P I want more detailed info, for RP purposes. What, exactly, is his HP? his MP? Is he immune to ALL ailments, or...? Seriously, info! Want info!
So I equipped a slew of interesting skills in a New Game +, and went grinding in Svadhisthana.
Currently, I'm at level eight. Keep in mind that this is after an hour of grinding; most enemies here are about level 3-5. I am officially over-levelled for fighting Harley. I'm writing down each thing he does and its effects, how much damage it does (or doesn't) do to my chars, and likewise what happens when I try various things on him. And then there's the part of the page where I'm keeping tally of how many times he's used each skill, to try figuring out his MP.
Here's what I've gathered so far.
Attack: (he slashes with his horn, downward. This implies that the front edge of it is sharp, but I'm not even going to go into my issues with the canon Hayagriva's anatomy here.)
Damage done: 11-14 HP.
Type: confirmed to be physical, not fire-based.
Skewer: (his horn is covered in agi/fire, and he charges, slashing upwards -- implied that the edge of the horn facing him is sharp too, as well as the tip.)
Damage done: 16-20 on Serph and Argilla (if Fire Drain reports HP healed as equivalent to potential damage, which it seems to) and 7-8 on Heat (suspect Heat's fire resistance must be at play here.)
Type: confirmed to be agi/fire. (Thank you, Fire Drain!)
Fire Storm: (he waves his itty lil arms around, agi all around, and finally flings it at them.)
Damage done: 20-24 on Argilla (again, with Fire Drain, mostly) only 8-13 on Heat, and 23-28 on Serph (It once randomly did 40, when that Drain wasn't prepared. Seemed to be a random freak weakness-hitting occurrence though.)
Type: definitely agi/fire. (Thanks for all the heals, pony!)
Void Ice: (we all know what this one is.)
Conclusions so far:
The Analyze skill is completely useless when trying to use it on Hayagriva, and I wish I had that Spyglass thing with me. :(
It looks like Skewer = Agi (which is 3MP, as is Void Ice, iirc, but I'll confirm that later),
Fire Storm = Maragi (5 MP, right?),
and he seems to have 350+ MP,
while I'm running out of Chakra Drops and finding myself swearing at him for using plain old Attack after I've readied Fire Drain and could use healing again (because why cast a 5 MP spell every turn when I'm trying to get him to just wear himself out?)
Since you should be about level 50 in DDS 2 for him, while 8 is over-levelled in DDS 1, but his skill set retains the same names (Skewer and Fire Storm) I suspect that they've probably been changed to Agilao and Maragion, or even Agidyne and Maragidyne, but I really don't know for sure. I'd have to get back to that point in DDS 2 and mess around again. It's not exactly a priority for me, though.
Heat's gun sucks ass (2 HP? 2? Come on, Heat, you're joking, right?)
and I need to check WTF kind of bullets Serph's equipped, because hitting for 24 + stun (48 once, holy shit) is uh.
And apparently the pony is not wholly immune to effects, or else he wouldn't have been stunned by those bullets. (This warrants further investigation!)
Harley shields against Makajam (mute-inflicting) and MP Thief (damnation! D:< That would make this so much easier!)
Harley is indeed weak to ice and nulls fire,
the guy that did the script that's up on GameFAQs missed a few of Harley's lines,
and I'm going to be busy for a long time yet to come, trying out everything I can on him.
...especially since the Imagine wiki entry on Hayagriva is not helping. (144 MP, no Skewer or Fire Storm or Void Ice? He's level 57? (oh god, if that held true in DDS1--! LOL.) What's he doing knowing Gale Force and Mamudo? What is this I don't even--!)
TL;DR: my patience is running out, and his MP is not.
....Yet.
Stupid, stupid pony creature.
UPDATE: I kept him going until he tried casting Void Ice again and got the "Insufficient MP!" error. You know what happened then?
He cast Fire Storm and Skewer.
Successfully.
I looked it up -- Void Ice, according to the DDS 2 mantras+skills guide, costs 3 MP. This sounds right to me.
Which means that Fire Storm + Skewer < 3. Therefore, Fire Storm = 1 MP and Skewer = 1 MP, since DDS only deals in integers for HP and MP. Yay! Now I can properly calculate how much MP he had, based on knowing how many times he cast what!
...and then he casts Fire Storm again. Successfully.
What the...?
I kept going for a few more turns.
As of when I've paused to write this up, he's cast Fire Storm seven more times, and Skewer five, and that's after he'd run out of MP to cast Void Ice.
And if he doesn't have enough MP to cast Void Ice, which only requires 3, how the hell does he have enough MP to cast twelve more spells?
Answer: The fail!pony is a freaking cheater and he's casting Skewer and Fire Storm for free.
...
Of course you know, now I'm tempted to get all over-levelled so I can screw around with Bat like this, and find out if that Zotzillaha Bane spell of his has an MP cost for him, or if it's a free move too, or what.
Curiosity killed the cat.
0_o
Walkthroughs have given me this much:
HP: 560-600
MP: ???
level: ???
Null: Fire, Ailment/Status, Hama, Mudo
Weak: Ice
Skills:
Attack (phys)
Skewer (fire)
Fire Storm (fire - all)
Void Ice
And additional walkthroughs tell me that in DDS 2, he drains fire, has a far higher HP, can do the Psycho Rage trick, and you should be at like, level 50 or so to face him.
Uh, yeah. So, nothing new there. :P I want more detailed info, for RP purposes. What, exactly, is his HP? his MP? Is he immune to ALL ailments, or...? Seriously, info! Want info!
So I equipped a slew of interesting skills in a New Game +, and went grinding in Svadhisthana.
Currently, I'm at level eight. Keep in mind that this is after an hour of grinding; most enemies here are about level 3-5. I am officially over-levelled for fighting Harley. I'm writing down each thing he does and its effects, how much damage it does (or doesn't) do to my chars, and likewise what happens when I try various things on him. And then there's the part of the page where I'm keeping tally of how many times he's used each skill, to try figuring out his MP.
Here's what I've gathered so far.
Attack: (he slashes with his horn, downward. This implies that the front edge of it is sharp, but I'm not even going to go into my issues with the canon Hayagriva's anatomy here.)
Damage done: 11-14 HP.
Type: confirmed to be physical, not fire-based.
Skewer: (his horn is covered in agi/fire, and he charges, slashing upwards -- implied that the edge of the horn facing him is sharp too, as well as the tip.)
Damage done: 16-20 on Serph and Argilla (if Fire Drain reports HP healed as equivalent to potential damage, which it seems to) and 7-8 on Heat (suspect Heat's fire resistance must be at play here.)
Type: confirmed to be agi/fire. (Thank you, Fire Drain!)
Fire Storm: (he waves his itty lil arms around, agi all around, and finally flings it at them.)
Damage done: 20-24 on Argilla (again, with Fire Drain, mostly) only 8-13 on Heat, and 23-28 on Serph (It once randomly did 40, when that Drain wasn't prepared. Seemed to be a random freak weakness-hitting occurrence though.)
Type: definitely agi/fire. (Thanks for all the heals, pony!)
Void Ice: (we all know what this one is.)
Conclusions so far:
The Analyze skill is completely useless when trying to use it on Hayagriva, and I wish I had that Spyglass thing with me. :(
It looks like Skewer = Agi (which is 3MP, as is Void Ice, iirc, but I'll confirm that later),
Fire Storm = Maragi (5 MP, right?),
and he seems to have 350+ MP,
while I'm running out of Chakra Drops and finding myself swearing at him for using plain old Attack after I've readied Fire Drain and could use healing again (because why cast a 5 MP spell every turn when I'm trying to get him to just wear himself out?)
Since you should be about level 50 in DDS 2 for him, while 8 is over-levelled in DDS 1, but his skill set retains the same names (Skewer and Fire Storm) I suspect that they've probably been changed to Agilao and Maragion, or even Agidyne and Maragidyne, but I really don't know for sure. I'd have to get back to that point in DDS 2 and mess around again. It's not exactly a priority for me, though.
Heat's gun sucks ass (2 HP? 2? Come on, Heat, you're joking, right?)
and I need to check WTF kind of bullets Serph's equipped, because hitting for 24 + stun (48 once, holy shit) is uh.
And apparently the pony is not wholly immune to effects, or else he wouldn't have been stunned by those bullets. (This warrants further investigation!)
Harley shields against Makajam (mute-inflicting) and MP Thief (damnation! D:< That would make this so much easier!)
Harley is indeed weak to ice and nulls fire,
the guy that did the script that's up on GameFAQs missed a few of Harley's lines,
and I'm going to be busy for a long time yet to come, trying out everything I can on him.
...especially since the Imagine wiki entry on Hayagriva is not helping. (144 MP, no Skewer or Fire Storm or Void Ice? He's level 57? (oh god, if that held true in DDS1--! LOL.) What's he doing knowing Gale Force and Mamudo? What is this I don't even--!)
TL;DR: my patience is running out, and his MP is not.
....Yet.
Stupid, stupid pony creature.
UPDATE: I kept him going until he tried casting Void Ice again and got the "Insufficient MP!" error. You know what happened then?
He cast Fire Storm and Skewer.
Successfully.
I looked it up -- Void Ice, according to the DDS 2 mantras+skills guide, costs 3 MP. This sounds right to me.
Which means that Fire Storm + Skewer < 3. Therefore, Fire Storm = 1 MP and Skewer = 1 MP, since DDS only deals in integers for HP and MP. Yay! Now I can properly calculate how much MP he had, based on knowing how many times he cast what!
...and then he casts Fire Storm again. Successfully.
What the...?
I kept going for a few more turns.
As of when I've paused to write this up, he's cast Fire Storm seven more times, and Skewer five, and that's after he'd run out of MP to cast Void Ice.
And if he doesn't have enough MP to cast Void Ice, which only requires 3, how the hell does he have enough MP to cast twelve more spells?
Answer: The fail!pony is a freaking cheater and he's casting Skewer and Fire Storm for free.
...
Of course you know, now I'm tempted to get all over-levelled so I can screw around with Bat like this, and find out if that Zotzillaha Bane spell of his has an MP cost for him, or if it's a free move too, or what.
Curiosity killed the cat.
0_o