Comments | ladymordecai: Young and Just Us: Thoughts on Fan Generational Issues in the DCU

ladymordecai

Young and Just Us: Thoughts on Fan Generational Issues in the DCU

Nov 16, 2008 05:21

There is a thing that I do not understand.

In this Newsarama article, an interview with Dan Didio, I am excited by very many things: the idea of multiple Wonder Woman titles, the integration with Milestone (though I am anxious about that, as well as excited about the re-emergence of the characters), and the return to a nonlinear continuity.

( What I do not and find I cannot understand is this: )

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bradygirl_12 November 16 2008, 22:38:53 UTC

True, the way DC kills off characters just cheapens death in so many ways. *sighs ( ... )

ladymordecai November 19 2008, 22:50:10 UTC

See, I think a great deal of the fact that older generations are buying more comics than the younger ones (wow, I'm in a younger generation...) is that comics are marketed all wrong, but that's a rant for another day, when I feel like bringing up MINX and cross-media issues. I do agree with you that it's likely older readers buy more comics ( ... )

abeyance_ablaze November 16 2008, 22:46:15 UTC

I secondd that rant! I got into reading the dcu comic books after watching static shock and justice league and the first comic book series I read was batman and Young juctice and I didn't start at the begining of batman. I couldn't stand anything in batman before tim drake. when I started reading the dcu I chose to fallow Tim Drake, Bart Allen and Kon-el because I could relate to them and now 2/3 of my favorit charactors have been killed off. I have been trying to fallow teen titans but it's full of characters I don't know and Tim isn't' the same as he used to be but thats expected after they killed off his father, girlfreind and two of his bestfriends all in a short period of time. There was so much the DCU could have used Tims dad for before they killed him! anyways hope someone from the DCU has enough brains to point out that the new gen. wants their characters too.

axolotl_lan November 17 2008, 13:21:22 UTC

Kind of like a "we realize you guys want your spot on the swings back but can we still keep the kiddyswings at the very least? - you don't even fit into them anymore!"

ladymordecai November 19 2008, 22:56:29 UTC

Yeah. I'd love it if old and new characters could coexist, instead of having to replace each other over and over again. It's like the revolving door of doom.

ladymordecai November 19 2008, 22:55:05 UTC

Yeah, I really hate the killing off of good secondary characters--and even more than their for-the-plot, refrigerator-killing of Tim's dad for Identity Crisis, what I really disliked was that Tim's stepmom, who by all accounts was AWESOME, had a mental breakdown that led to her getting conveniently killed in a mental institution when Bludhaven got destroyed.

Way to dismiss an interesting character and all the plot lines that could have gone with, DC.

Yeah, I jumped into DC on the Young Justice train, and miss the title--miss both of Peter David's titles, actually--quite desperately. I don't even bother with Titans anymore, there's too much angst--but BLUE BEETLE is awesome, and very much akin to YJ. Check it out.

Thanks for reading!

Thank You!!!!!!!!! anonymous November 21 2008, 18:44:23 UTC

Barry Allen died 23 years ago, huh? Y'know where I was 23 years ago..? About 3 months along IN My MOTHER'S UTERUS ( ... )

Re: Thank You!!!!!!!!! ladymordecai November 22 2008, 04:47:21 UTC

We can't just blame Didio--he's at least behind Jaime Reyes, who is awesome. He might be part of the problem, but there are a lot of editors, writers, arists, marketing people, etc., at DC who make these kinds of decisions.

I completely understand older fans wanting to be able to keep reading about their characters. The thing is, DC's done a lot of nostalgiac lines like the Year One miniseries, All-Star 'verse and New Frontier. Hal Jordan and Barry Allen belong there. Kyle Rayner and Bart belong in main canon.

Also, I like the phrase "destructive trajectory". It's very descriptive.

Re: Thank You!!!!!!!!! anonymous November 22 2008, 06:28:06 UTC

Ha. Thanks. I realize the above post may have made me sound like a raving loony, but I am so sick of this crap at DC, throwing away great characters and the potential for fantastic NEW stories, in favour of bringing back their child-hoods... And don't even get me started on all of the sore winners who bash Linda Danvers, whose arguments revolve around the fact that she's not Superman's cousin/a member of the House of El (unless, of course, you count her alternate-universe marriage in "Many Happy Returns," and I know they don't), and the claims that she's a "fake," or a "substitution..." I totally agree that it is unconscionable to kill of, say, Bart Allen, because apparently his entire existence was a sham and a ploy to bring back Barry. Wonder what ol' grampa Flash would have to say about that...

Funny how so many of the characters/major players don't seem to mind, eh?

*sigh*

please forgive the c/p arks January 5 2009, 02:56:42 UTC

Yes. This. This almost exactly. I approached the problem from a bit of a different angle when I ranted but it's the same issue, really. I refuse to read Infinite Crisis. I don't want to see these characters I love killed or broken ( ... )

Re: please forgive the c/p ladymordecai January 5 2009, 16:40:42 UTC

I agree. It is one of those things that I feel comics should learn about from TV--not all TV, obviously, but shows like Buffy and Star Trek. Due to how TV works, they can't just randomly kill characters because characters are played by actors under contract. Things change for the worse, people die, but people also triumph and/or learn to become new people once they've failed.

Failure is not an end, it is a learning experience. DC does not seem to grasp this concept.