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Apr 03, 2008 21:44

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phaselus_ille April 4 2008, 03:03:01 UTC
http://community.livejournal.com/free_speech_ftm

it's all just a ridiculous mess. I think a lot of people outside the community fail to realize that this sort of thing happens every day, it's just that this time, the media got hold of it.

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aeazel April 4 2008, 04:05:03 UTC
Dear lords, that was almost as bad as reading through some morally conservative tripe.

I suppose my major issue with some transfolk (though the same can be said of: queer, cis, straight--I guess I'm just a misanthrope) is this reinforcing of the gender norm. "Men can't have babies."

What the fuck ever.

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phaselus_ille April 4 2008, 10:07:24 UTC
That guy's just a tool, though (the one ranting on free_speech_ftm). If anyone else had made those comments, that thread would have exploded, because there would have been a real conversation, but that guy is generally considered a troll and generally considered not to have mastered first-grade logic. There are much more reasoned discussions in ftm, but I think that comm is members-only.

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aeazel April 4 2008, 13:28:17 UTC
Well, I did see some well-reasoned rebuttals to him as well. But it seems there were a few who agreed with him fully, and then those that stepped back and actually despised the media uproar, but took issue with his refusal to use the correct pronouns and such. Interesting debates going on...

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tiffielee April 4 2008, 16:19:03 UTC
I thought Oprah acted like a cunt.
I just feel really awkward about how that child will be treated by the rest of the world.
We're obviously in the shitter as is.
"yeah, hi, my dad gave birth to me..." doesn't seem like it'd go over as smoothly with some people as it would others.

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tiffielee April 4 2008, 16:27:55 UTC
ps. i miss you daniel! we need to catch up.

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lancewilliam April 4 2008, 22:55:34 UTC
It was really awkward... Oprah acted really ignorant and managed to talk about her breasts growing at age 11. You could also tell she wanted the entire episode to be about this topic, but Oprah couldn't find any experts to talk about it or anything like that, so they kept going to commercials literally every 2 minutes. I think the worst part is... she didn't give out any gifts! What in the world...

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anonymous May 23 2008, 03:21:40 UTC
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