Happy Veteran's Day

[lawst]

I can honestly say, this is the first time I can recall the days leading up to Veteran's Day not being full of angst.  If anything, I failed to notice it was coming.  Some of this is my own doing, I've tangled with some of the stuff I've been dealing with and if I haven't solved the issues I've at least come to terms with them.  As I keep saying,

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[airlinepilot]

Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I consider myself liberal (at least, more so than conservative), and I appreciate the job soldiers and cops do. I have friends and family in both professions. I wish I'd followed my dad's wishes and served.
I think the fact that this war's lasted long enough for fathers and sons to serve together, and there are people who remember how badly the soldiers were treated in the 70s when it was the politicians who deserved the vitriol, have helped restore some of the respect for veterans.

And no disrepect to mothers and daughters-- I just don't know of any mothers and daughters that have served together. I'm sure it'll happen soon, if it hasn't already.

[lawst]

You're welcome. I think there have been some but with little press coverage. I can't think of any reason that doesn't step into the realm of cobspiracy theory. Women haven't gotten much coverage since Lynch and England, the Madonna and the Jezebel, both used as examples of why women shouldn't be in the service. I'm actually somewhat ok with the bare coverage, or coverage that has been inclusive of women rather than making an example of them. It's a yardstick that, to me, indicates a wider acceptance of women as warriors. It's becoming a non-issue. Most feminist movements can't attract female soldiers because those soldiers refuse to be treated as victims. So long as tgose women simply do their jobs it will continue to be a non-issue. At least until there's another push for women to be allowed into combat arms. At that point women should have to sign up for the draft (which they should anyway, but feminist groups have managed to keep that from happening).

[lawst]

Yeah, sub crews have a culture alllllllll their own. I think if they go in accepting that, they'll be fine. The military in general is not a place for the thin skinned. Feminism wants to change that culture which, IMHO, is wrong. If women want to take part they need to learn their place in it...just as every person does, regardless of gender. If you are too weak to handle it, you don't belong.

[lawst]

*grrrrr* She set things back. Not just physically weak but morally and ethically as well. My thought on the women who try to change the culture is that it would have been like me falling in love with the culture of S. Louisiana then bitching that it's not like WA after moving there then trying to change it to suit. The current generation of young women haven't done that. The culture *has* changed over time because of women though. It's been the strong ones standing up for themselves, not allowing themselves to be victims and by being part of the culture, that's done it.