Comments | lbuckley: Oh, HRC.

lbuckley

Oh, HRC.

Mar 28, 2013 17:05

I don't have time to fact check this, but apparently, HRC asked trans*folk at the rally for marriage equality to take down their flags, because marriage equality isn't a trans issueBecause, you know, no trans people are gay, and no trans people are in love with people of the same gender designation as themselves, and it wouldn't be very, very handy ( Read more... )

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ladycelia March 28 2013, 22:01:41 UTC

There's a part of me that kind of sees both sides of this. The marriage issue is already so very much a hot-button for so many people, that it feels like a way to "grease the wheels" by not being super up front about what real life looks like to a lot of folks. I'm not saying that I agree with it. Not by any stretch. But I can see where (given that this really is a political issue in a lot of ways), that the politics involved might make folks think that a public trans aspect to the issue would just make it tougher.

That said, I think it's incredibly chickenshit to claim to be for equality and then say that some folks are more equal than others. A bit too Animal Farm for me.

lbuckley March 29 2013, 13:56:22 UTC

Oh, I see both sides, to be sure. One strategy many LGB activists have is to present gay folks as just like straight folks in as many ways as possible, and thus often pushing gender-benders of all stripes to the side. And trans issues are scarier to a larger populace (these days) than sexual orientation issues ( ... )

ladycelia March 29 2013, 20:28:48 UTC

I had no idea that there's a trans flag and I have several trans friends.

ladycelia March 28 2013, 22:03:31 UTC

When I was working the phones against Prop 8 in California, there was an extremely narrow 'script' that I was supposed to use when talking to people. So narrow, in fact, that after one day on the phones I left, because I knew that I could be far more persuasive left to my own devices (I'm not in sales for nothing).

lbuckley March 29 2013, 13:56:48 UTC

Interesting! What sorts of things did the script include -- and fail to include?

ladycelia March 29 2013, 20:28:13 UTC

I don't remember the specifics, but it didn't mention anything at all beyond constitutional reasons.

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lbuckley March 29 2013, 13:56:56 UTC

Yep.

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lbuckley March 29 2013, 13:59:01 UTC

I'm in such a weird place, socially and politically. I mean, simultaneously navigating Sudden Adult Onset Male Privilege (whoa, that's a weird one to wrap my head around), and becoming too damned queer to feel welcome even at the national level queer parties.

wordweaverlynn March 31 2013, 08:57:13 UTC

It pisses me off -- one reason I didn't change my Facebook icon.