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[leere_form]

so, muay thai yesterday was loads of fun. i'm a total newb, so i can't kick or punch for crap.. but as soon as we started working the clinch, judo/wrestling kicked in and i was throwing my partner all over the place.. haha

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[vindonnus]

That's a great takedown.

[leere_form]

agreed! anyone who comes in for ouchi-gari without sufficient kuzushi is just asking for it.

the wrestling coach at four seasons says that he hardly needs to throw anyone in judo class, he just waits for the judo guys to turn their hips in (like blue in the video) then slams them on their back. he's even more about good posture and balance than the judo guys, i think.

after he told me that and working with him a few evenings, i see how very right he was. the last takedown i got before i got hurt was basically just following his advice: wait for the hips to turn, take them down. =)

i'm beginning to understand that, practically speaking, kuzushi really = "contort the person into the most extreme position possible, then throw them as you will."

i'd liken it more to "breaking posture" than "breaking balance." in the video, blue broke his own posture by turning just his hips in, but allowed white to keep his hips and shoulders in alignment as he did so. and white won

[leere_form]

now i'm watching this video again and laughing to myself, because white was totally setting it up and baiting him, too. ;D

that is how you pwn a newb.

[vindonnus]

Sounds like a breakthrough to me! Congrats!

Although I'd say that good posture leads to good balance... what do you think?

[harlequinlocke]

Hey glad to hear you will are able to return to jiu-jitsu despite the shoulder! One thing I like about BJJ is that assuming you are working with good ppl you can tone intensity up or down to allow for the ever present ailments training brings about.

Re: your comments below and the clip above, this is actually an eye opener for me and will be very helpful! My takedowns are shat so the last few Saturdays I have been having a wrestler work with me to get ready for a competition. It has helped, but I have a feeling waiting/baiting the hip that way will do much more for me. Thanks!

[leere_form]

yeah, the guys at my gym are definitely really cool about going light and working technique/positioning instead of just going full speed all the time.

i'm glad my observations helped you out! play around with placing one foot forward, if you're trying to get a counter-throw, and see what happens. they'll probably try to hook or sweep your leg if they're a judo guy, and probably drop to grab it if they're a wrestler.

if they do the judo thing you can do what the guy in the clip did, if they hook to the inside (ouchi-gari -> ouchi-gaeshi). it's really as easy as it looks, if you get the timing just right and don't let them push your shoulders behind your hips!

also, if they hook to the outside with their leg, as guys sometimes do for single legs and such, you can counter with uchi-mata(for example: with your left leg forward, as soon as their right leg creeps outside of and behind your left leg, you turn and throw uchi-mata

[leere_form]

agreed, my friend. i was just thinking about those MMA gloves today, and i think they would be perfect entertainment for poor college kids such as ourselves...

[leere_form]

http://www.mmamuscle.com/combat-sports-intl-mma-training-gloves-p1888.html

check these out: lotsa padding, allows for grappling, gets great reviews on their website and on bullshido, and costs fifty bucks plus shipping i guess.

i think i'm getting a pair to work muay thai with, although i'm gonna ask the instructor first if MMA gloves are okay by him.

they do not sell sais, as far as i can tell. =/