Thoughts about artificial language

May 26, 2008 16:53

Some person recently told me that Esperanto is a real and effective international language. However I guess that it was incorrect. In most cases the langs like Esperanto or Occidental are all based on the Latin lexicon and structures - or European if more widely.

This means that Esperanto is interesting if we need something common for French, ( Read more... )

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Ignorance holds Esperanto back brian_barker May 26 2008, 12:54:51 UTC
If Esperanto doesn't work, why have eight British MP's nominated Esperanto for the Nobel Peace Prize 2008
Personally I am convinced that ignorance is holding Esperanto back.
Detail available at http://esperantolobby.org

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Re: Ignorance holds Esperanto back lenno_cornish May 27 2008, 04:35:40 UTC
well - British MP can do whatever they want, they are not members of Chinese Communist Party! :)

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ext_101744 May 26 2008, 15:31:24 UTC
You're right that Esperanto is based on European languages, and is therefore easier for Europeans than non-Europeans to learn. However, you are wrong that it doesn't work as an international language. Visit an Esperanto forum or chatroom such as those found at lernu.net and you'll see. Users from China and other non-European countries are easy to find.

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lenno_cornish May 27 2008, 04:40:34 UTC
Hmmm, of course Esperanto has a lot of resources and in some cases is more easier to be learnt than any natural European lang. If our Chinese person is able to learn English - there won't be problem with learning Esperanto. What I speak about is the basis of this language - the basis isn't international, it's just European.

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Esperanto doesn't work for X's or Y's, nor for those who did not study it anonymous May 26 2008, 15:55:17 UTC
"But it doesn’t work for Chinese or Aztec persons. "

BTW, did you find a language suited for Azterc and Chinese that you could learn as easily as Esperanto?
You would of course assert that English works well enough for them, but Esperanto is too ... or not enough ... without knowing what you are speaking about.
There is no doubt English can be use very well in UK. However there is over one billion Chinese who don't understand a word of it.
In fact there are many more Chinese than English who learned Esperanto.
Remuŝ

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Re: Esperanto doesn't work for X's or Y's, nor for those who did not study it lenno_cornish May 27 2008, 04:42:53 UTC
sounds great!

in case of English - what about Pidgin English?

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Esperanto works anonymous May 26 2008, 16:13:19 UTC
There is no doubt at all thast Esperanto is a fully functioning international language. Earlier this month I was in Southport in the north-west of England, talking in Esperanto witha young Slovak and a young Japanese. I regularly receive letters and emails in the language from Africa.

Although the basic vocabulary of Esperanto is indeed European, it is possible to build up new words using a series of prefixes and suffixes, something closer to Turkish.

Bill Chapman

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Re: Esperanto works lenno_cornish May 27 2008, 04:55:30 UTC
what about postfixes as in Finnish? :)

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European or Asiatic language? orzoisfashion May 26 2008, 21:26:35 UTC
Esperanto actually has quite a bit in common with Asian languages, and in some ways it is very different from inflected languages descended from Latin. Claude Piron was a translator of Chinese at the UN, for example, who argued that in some way, Esperanto is more similar to Chinese than it is to French, Spanish, or English:

http://claudepiron.free.fr/articlesenanglais/europeanorasiatic.htm

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Re: European or Asiatic language? lenno_cornish May 27 2008, 05:36:57 UTC
what do you think about Elvish languages?

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Re: European or Asiatic language? orzoisfashion May 27 2008, 05:39:19 UTC
Umm... they're good for Elves? :-) Honestly, I don't have anything meaningful to say about Elvish languages. Sorry!

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Re: European or Asiatic language? lenno_cornish May 27 2008, 05:41:48 UTC
I speak about them as a beautiful artifical language (in fact - a number of langs) - they are based on carefully studied European and some other langs and their sounds are nice. I speak about Tolkien's work.

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