#2 is a serious ouch -- not sure how common it is in that kind of situation but that basically ties your hands at changing companies unless you also want to move to a different city.
I would be wary of that one. The rest of it seems pretty standard to me, though the time off is a bit low, even for a first year.
Thanks for your reply. Yeah, I agree that #2 is a bit much. I mean, it wouldn't prevent me from going somewhere else to support other software (say as a help desk for a software manufacturer who teaches you their specific software), or taking a job using the software I learned there (web design, or database development or something), but it would still be potentially limiting.
And, yeah, the time off is ridiculously low. I am going to ask them about the opportunity for unpaid time off or comptime.
Thanks for your advice. Yeah, I think it sounds pretty strict, too. The upshot would be that its a way to break into a new field and still be paid to do it.
As far as moving to Philly, yeah, it sucks that its farther from Boston. But, not to worry, I'll still make it up pretty often. Plus, I'll have a car, which might help. I like seeing you, too. :)
Honestly, I'd skip it, but I'm currently employed at a pretty nifty place. Heck, I'd have given it a pass while at my last job, which was non-permanent.
Still, if the office culture is really nice, it might be fun despite the restrictions.
Yeah, the office culture did sound pretty cool. They told me that they're a bunch of geeks (not that that came as a surprise). One of the people who interviewed me even commented that, "You don't really seem like a geek....". They also told me that most of the employees are very artsy and everyone has their own unique hobbies and stuff, so I would fit into that pretty well.
I dunno, this has lots of pros and lots of cons, which is what makes the decision so hard.
AV is not quote as cutthroat as most tech industries but I think #1 and #2 are really tough to swallow. #1 especially to me because I doubt they gave you a real definition of "Cause." Speaking as someone who has watched several people get fired for cause, what usually happens is they decide they want to get rid of you and then find some reasons. It could be stuff you have been doing the whole time you worked there and no one ever said boo. In the cases I was privy to it's not that they didn't deserve to be fired. Believe me they did, but when they did get fired it must have come out of left field for them, becuase they didn't really get a lot of warning. They knew they were fucking up a lot, but probably never knew how close they were to getting fired unitl it happend. What I'm saying is that for the first 13 months you may (and probably should) be terrified that you could be fired at any moment. They of course want this, since it promotes people to push themselves harder than they might ordinarily
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Thanks for taking the time to look over my saga. Well, yeah, I agree that #1 is a bit much, but I do also recognize that they feel the need to protect the return on their investment in training you. Though $5000 is a bit steep
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If I were offered a contract like that, I would turn it down flat unless I knew for absolute certain sure that I wanted to be in that industry and in that company, and I can't imagine what would make me want to work for a company whose management so clearly distrusted and disliked their employees. You are not a number! You are a free woman!
All true. Yeah, I dunno. Its just that its tempting because I would like to try out tech and this would be a way to do it while still being paid a relatively decent salary.
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I would be wary of that one. The rest of it seems pretty standard to me, though the time off is a bit low, even for a first year.
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And, yeah, the time off is ridiculously low. I am going to ask them about the opportunity for unpaid time off or comptime.
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However, that aside...that sounds very, very draconian. I haven't done phone support in 13 years, and it was never like that in my day.
I would wait until opinions gather, and I'll do some research, but this does not sounds normal at all.
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As far as moving to Philly, yeah, it sucks that its farther from Boston. But, not to worry, I'll still make it up pretty often. Plus, I'll have a car, which might help. I like seeing you, too. :)
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Still, if the office culture is really nice, it might be fun despite the restrictions.
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I dunno, this has lots of pros and lots of cons, which is what makes the decision so hard.
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