Yeah, that original part alone probably wouldn't have set off any alarms with me, but when they were at the tomb the way she spoke to Kara was sort-of... I don't know. Subordinate-y. Maybe it was just a wierd vibe I got, but it'll be interesting to keep an eye on.
Thanks for that! I really need to go watch the mini since I'm kind of theorizing on half a series. I wonder if as Boomer becomes more aware of her cylon-ness she becomes more cylon-like in personality?
I totally agree with you that the Cylons are keeping humans alive. I've speculated since the mini that they're using the fleet to act out a sort of Passion Play - that they're re-enacting the Scriptures, either to break the cycle and ensure their dominance, or go through the cycle with human/cylon hybrids as the founders of the next Twelve. Or both, with different cylon factions pursuing slightly divergent agendas...
I adore this Boomer - GalacticaBoomer was too conflicted, too weak, without any kind of core of strength, where this Boomer has complete solidity and self-assurance. Fasscinating...
And I think you're right - Roslin sees Kara as Not A Player. Since Kara usually sees Kara as Not A Player, but seems to be looking to change, I think there's some interesting dynamics ahead there as well.
I adore this Boomer - GalacticaBoomer was too conflicted, too weak, without any kind of core of strength, where this Boomer has complete solidity and self-assurance. Fasscinating...Maybe it's because she knows what she is. The Gal-Boomer of the miniseries and "33" was pretty similar to this one, personality-wise. But once she started having blackouts, suspecting she'd committed sabotage unawares, suspecting she was a Cylon, and had Tyrol break up with her, she just crumbled, became suicidal, etc. I do think it would be very traumatic to be in that position, particularly since all her memories prior to a few years previously would presumably be fake ones. She's got nothing to act as that core of strength, because her entire self-awareness is built on lies
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I think you're right all around - Grace Park *is* doing a better job now. And as a sleeper agent, G-Boomer was inherently conflicted and came to know she *couldn't* trust herself.
It's interesting that C-Boomer's apparent choice to exercise free will, like you said, comes from still being grounded in the Cylon worldview. I can't wait to see more!
Cap-Boomer, though, seems to have much more agency. She knows who she is, and she takes decisions in full knowledge of the consequences. She's strong and self-assured because she's making her own choices, fighting for survival for Helo and herself, and she has free will.
Exactly!
My guess is that sleeper agents are programmed in such a way that their orders can override their conscious desires. It would be the only safe thing to do, because a sleeper agent who identifies as human and can't be controlled would be a liability.
Though if they're just experimenting (and this is the first cycle in which they have live humans to act out their passion play with- excellent theory, by the way kaseido) maybe they haven't perfected their override thing yet. I mean, clearly they managed to override Galactica!Boomer's conscious desires, but now that they've done it once and she knows how it feels, they might now be so lucky with the more self-assured Caprica!Boomer, who is consciously blocking out the Cylon collective in her head
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I also was thinking that because Cylon-Sharon has Dead Sharon's memories she also has those feeling for Tyrol. I really like the way the scene went though. I felt a little bad for Tyrol because his leadership lies with Adama but he cared for the dead Sharn.
I too was really confused as to how they all just ended up on "Earth". I was thinking it was an elusian to show them clues as to how to get there but Starbuck had that big heartfelt reaction about being ON earth so maybe not.
and how cool to hear Lucy in her own voice! That she could have that thick an accent and do a thick American accent all those years is impressive craft.
Can't quite wrap my mind around the blonde thing yet, though - *g*
I love what you wrote up about Helo, because I agree 100%. He is a pretty straightforward person. Sharon has proven her loyalty to his satisfaction, so (especially since he was so distanced from the fleet and bonded with her in combat situation), he comes to trust her. And since he always loved her, and only trust was the issue, we get Helo/Boomer the way they now are.
Thanks! I think one of the problems with BSG is that we tend to hold every male up against Lee- who considers every moral ramification that every single one of his actions has. Most people don't think like that. Most soldiers and pilots sure as hell don't, and especially someone as emotionally vulnerable as Helo wouldn't.
Before I go through and read all the responses, since I'm a little late to the party, I just want to say THANK YOU for your eloquent defense of our dear, sweet, generous, handsome, loyal, caring, honorable, altruistic boyscout, Helo.
I am sick to DEATH of everybody calling him stupid! The boy's not stupid! He just doesn't have all the facts yet. Sheesh.
Thank you! Man, I love Helo, and I really think the writers don't give him enough to do/credit (take The Farm for example- HE'D CHECK FOR KARA, DAMNIT.) <3
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Thanks for that! I really need to go watch the mini since I'm kind of theorizing on half a series. I wonder if as Boomer becomes more aware of her cylon-ness she becomes more cylon-like in personality?
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I adore this Boomer - GalacticaBoomer was too conflicted, too weak, without any kind of core of strength, where this Boomer has complete solidity and self-assurance. Fasscinating...
And I think you're right - Roslin sees Kara as Not A Player. Since Kara usually sees Kara as Not A Player, but seems to be looking to change, I think there's some interesting dynamics ahead there as well.
Great review!!
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It's interesting that C-Boomer's apparent choice to exercise free will, like you said, comes from still being grounded in the Cylon worldview. I can't wait to see more!
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Exactly!
My guess is that sleeper agents are programmed in such a way that their orders can override their conscious desires. It would be the only safe thing to do, because a sleeper agent who identifies as human and can't be controlled would be a liability.
Though if they're just experimenting (and this is the first cycle in which they have live humans to act out their passion play with- excellent theory, by the way kaseido) maybe they haven't perfected their override thing yet. I mean, clearly they managed to override Galactica!Boomer's conscious desires, but now that they've done it once and she knows how it feels, they might now be so lucky with the more self-assured Caprica!Boomer, who is consciously blocking out the Cylon collective in her head ( ... )
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I too was really confused as to how they all just ended up on "Earth". I was thinking it was an elusian to show them clues as to how to get there but Starbuck had that big heartfelt reaction about being ON earth so maybe not.
Xena! I can't wait.
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I feel terrible for Tyrol. Poor Helo and Tyrol are probably the most tortured characters in the entire series- oh, Sharon.
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Can't quite wrap my mind around the blonde thing yet, though - *g*
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I am sick to DEATH of everybody calling him stupid! The boy's not stupid! He just doesn't have all the facts yet. Sheesh.
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