Tolerance and Trouble Brewing

Oct 07, 2018 20:33



There is a difference between the US political left and right in the area of tolerance of ideas. The recent Kavanaugh confirmation circus is merely the most recent illustration of that difference.

In general, the right argues vehemently against the left’s ideas, but does not advocate blocking them. For example, while many conservatives are ( Read more... )

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allaboutweather October 8 2018, 03:50:33 UTC
The left in their self-righteousness believe that they are never wrong and that even if they were hypocrites on something, it was only because the "other side did it first".

Trump's Presidency unmasked the left for what truly are.... violent, hypocritical thugs who truly believe in "the ends justify the means". McCarthy was right all along.

By the way, I noticed that some of your recent entries were posted twice.

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kharmii October 8 2018, 13:53:18 UTC
There was a meme going around sjw circles that showed a white guy with a 'praise KEK' t-shirt on who advocated for free speech, even if it was what sjws considered 'hate speech'. He was surrounded by a bunch of trenderqueer women who argued that 'hate speech' wouldn't impact his life one bit, but they all had to worry about getting killed. That's the same reasoning they have for punching 'Nazis', which doesn't distinguish between actual Nazi's, alt-right, moderate Republicans or blue-dog Democrats who voted for Trump because Obama made radical changes that impacted their lives in negative ways (like Obamacare ( ... )

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About shutting down the news media ... marmoe October 8 2018, 19:36:44 UTC
In general, the right argues vehemently against the left’s ideas, but does not advocate blocking them. For example, while many conservatives are looking forward to the CNN and the New York Times’s business failure, and take a certain grim delight in the poor performance of far left media such as MSNBC with the American public, we don’t want them shut down just for saying what they say.

From a current IPSOS poll:

Q: "President Trump should close down mainstream news outlets, like CNN, the Washington Post, and The New York Times."
Republicans:
11% strongly agree
12% somewhat agree
26% neither agree nor disagree
18% somewhat disagree
31% strongly disagree
That is, one in four Republicans DOES want to shut down CNN, WaPo, NYT, etc.

48% of the Republicans somewhat (30%) or strongly agree(18%), that "The news media is the enemy of the American people." Just 28% of the Republicans disagree with that statement.

I find these numbers alarming. How about you?

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Re: About shutting down the news media ... level_head October 8 2018, 20:12:42 UTC
Small numbers don't concern me overmuch; you can get small numbers for Elvis, UFOs, and other sorts of fringe beliefs.

I wonder if that "somewhat agree" group could be "if they continue to fail to report news honestly." I certainly understand the feeling. It was a Leftist news outlet that won in court the right to lie to the public.

How many Democrats want to shut down Fox News and/or conservative talk radio? I'll bet that's more than a fringe.

More significant than fringe numbers: No Republican resolution or bill has been introduced, so far as I know, to shut down these leftist media sites.

Democrats have introduced resolutions/legislation to shut down conservative voices. And it is, of course, the whole point of the ludicrously named Fairness Doctrine that many leftists legislators have promoted.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle (@DeHavelle)

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Re: About shutting down the news media ... marmoe October 9 2018, 05:39:15 UTC
It was a Leftist news outlet that won in court the right to lie to the public.
Citation please. The only case turning up to a "'right to lie' media" search for me is the rumor that a Fox affiliate used that defense in court, a rumor rated false by both Politifact and Snopes.

And it is, of course, the whole point of the ludicrously named Fairness Doctrine that many leftists legislators have promoted.
Based on the Radio Act of 1927, ammended in 1934, both enacted under a Republican House, Senate and President. Put into a FCC rule in 1949 (Rep. House + Senate, Dem. President). Them pesky leftists legislators. (Subject to revision, looks like I may have misread a graphic)

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Re: About shutting down the news media ... level_head October 9 2018, 07:02:35 UTC
It is "pesky" leftists, and ONLY leftists, pushing to re-activate the Fairness Doctrine - expanded to also take down conservative bloggers with 200 followers or more. This is not the "Radio Act." And in any event, that act did not prohibit intensely political radio broadcasts. See, for example, Father Coughlin and Father Devine.

By the way, are you really sure about the "Republican House, Senate and President"? I think the actual people involved would be surprised. I imagine you're familiar with Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Be careful relying on Wikipedia. And Snopes and Politifact, for that matter, although it's happy news that they got this right.

As for "right to lie," see this:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/level_head/623460.html

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle (@DeHavelle)

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