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May 24, 2005 22:40

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whatadollface May 25 2005, 03:12:54 UTC
Hi Colin. (:

The Feminist movement does not state that women should not have children. Women get pregnant and men do not; women are biologically meant to be having kids.

Women also have brains. If they were not meant to work or think, but just to raise children, perhaps they'd be lacking in these as well.

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re: lies_pure_lies May 25 2005, 13:21:50 UTC
It did not state that, but that's what it's lead up to. Women's brains can be used to think; I never implied that they shoulnd't. They're able to make decisions.

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ladyofnavarre May 25 2005, 19:10:42 UTC
Its called natural and equal rights. Women are people too Colin and are capable of working just as hard as men. I have three girl cousins who pretty much ran their father's farm and can probably out lift the average man and one of them is now married and just had her first child. The fact that you have nuts and I don't does not make you better or stronger than me ( ... )

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lies_pure_lies May 26 2005, 00:24:32 UTC
I don't have a problem with women working, I just think that it's the men's responsiblity to earn the money and support his family. I don't treat women, or gays for that matter, as less of a person.

I don't like how people against gay marriage are automatically labeled as homophobes. I have love for everyone, but I think that they shouldn't get married. They can have civil unions, but I don't agree with marriage. If there are gay couples who are able to raise children well with a role model of the opposite sex as they are, then that's good for them, but I don't think that a child should be raised in that environment.

Nice talking though, I look foward to future debates in the future with you.

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ladyofarvent June 14 2005, 19:55:42 UTC
Colin ( ... )

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ladyofnavarre June 14 2005, 20:04:21 UTC
go lyss.

I would also like to add that gay marriage is a civil rights issue whether you want to admit it or not. There are rights that go along with a normal marriage, rights that are thus far being denied to same sex couples. It's really not all that different from telling two black people, or Muslims that they can't get married just like everyone else because they don't fall in with an ideal image.

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ladyofnavarre June 14 2005, 20:16:11 UTC
Also, about women working. If you're going to hold your wife back and expect her to make less than you all the time you're going to seriously screw things up. What if you can't get a job that pays well enough to feed your family? What is your wife going to do if you were to suddenly die? People learn through experience and your wife will not have the experience necessary to make a good living if you will not allow her to do so. Say you have two children, no money (say lost to medical bills and a funeral), and the husband is dead so there's no big strong man to take care of things. The only two options in your world are for the wife is to either get remarried to the first guy that'll have her and the children (which could easily result in having an abusive dead beat husband), or get a real job that she's in all likelihood not going to be able to handle. A woman who has not been held back will be able to take care of things.

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