To discredit or to disuade?

Jan 28, 2005 14:51

Conspiracy: An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act ( Read more... )

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lifeintherain January 30 2005, 04:30:32 UTC
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/roman_catholic_freemason.htm

This was not always true, and altho I know, the Masons were formed to in essance abolish Christianity from the earth, they were VERY closely tied to the Roman Catholics for hundreds of years. The Knights Of Templar were considered warriors of the Lord up to the point one of the people, in their debt, declared them heratics and had them killed.

So the question has been, why did the Catholics condem the Freemasons. Was it money? Strugle for power? Difference in religion? Information? Or just another grudge?

And the final point is the Symbols are everywhere, and their oragins? Most of them from pagan religions.

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lifeintherain January 30 2005, 05:40:28 UTC
no i've been looking into the Masons and related things since about the year 1997 when I realized what was going on with them in my area. I quickly stopped looking into that when I scratched the surface, then something else brought my attention back to them. Billy Corgan, The Machine Mystery, Black Wings Over America, GATMOG,etc... Thats a long and complicated thing I can't really get into.

As far as I can tell I'm on good standing with them, so thats how I'll leave that, but the Da Vinci Code isn't even a fraction on what I've based this on. The Da Vinci Code was more entertainment than fact, I believe that.

And as I've said before, I don't subscribe to conspiracy's for the most part, especially since I beleive the Masons were the fall guy for a lot of conspiracys. Manufactured conspiracys, wich I believe is one reason they didn't start till the mid 1900's but they do play a pretty key role in American history, up to the 1950's, and a toned down role since then.

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krystallos January 29 2005, 05:43:02 UTC
very interesting post. i think that your example about commercials is SO SO right on.

my dad was a mason. i'm not a fan of my dad anyway, but that makes me even more suspicious.

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lifeintherain January 30 2005, 05:44:35 UTC
subliminal mindfuck America.

Your dad was a Mason? I don't know much about your family, but from what I understand you're a Christian (a Christian I agree with on many aspects) but the Masons are anti-christian. Curious? Also, was?

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krystallos January 31 2005, 05:49:30 UTC
yeah. i am christian. my dad was raised southern baptist, but has never gone to church (except to see my sisters and i in special programs and such) since he was an adult. i guess he's still a mason. i think he just quit going, but he's never formally broken ties with them. i think the local chapter sorta began to disentegrate with the town. i've never talked to him about the details. he always just said he was "going to lodge." makes it sound like the elks or something!!

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joomusjitterbox January 30 2005, 04:27:02 UTC
Fascinating post. Very creepy. I don't even know what a Mason or a Freemason is. I've never heard of them before. But that's what creeps me out.

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lifeintherain January 30 2005, 05:47:00 UTC
I'm sure theres a Masonic Lodge or Temple near you. I'm pretty sure most of the key figures in your area, no matter how large or small your city/town, are Masons. Keep the mason symbol in your head, I bet you'll see it crop up in almost every town. I saw them almost everywhere in the east coast (not much here in LA tho)

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joomusjitterbox January 30 2005, 20:48:25 UTC
Nah, most of the people in this SF Bay Area town which is actually unique for Bay Area towns are either Catholic or Protestant.... I don't even know what a Mason is. But that's the weird thing.

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lifeintherain January 30 2005, 22:16:45 UTC
http://www.freemason.org/

freemasons of california. You'll probably find one near you.

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