In conversation with quiet_faerie about my last post I finally decided to continue with my view on Religion and Christ and its role in the conscious and bun conscious
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I think you offer some really great points. Even though I've always believed in God and was raised with the matter-of-fact belief in Jesus Christ, I have a lot of problems with the church and would have agreed with this post wholeheartedly when I was a teenager and being told by my Christian friends that I wasn't "really" Christian (for various reasons). However, I think that if you were to revise this, you would need to make more distinctions among the different brands of Christianity. That's the saddest thing to me about people in this country. They've been force-fed the religion of Kirk Cameron, TBN, Jerry Fallwell, and Bush to the point that they think that's all Christianity is. However, that's simply not true. In every corner of this country, there are Christians truly trying to follow Christ's example. Unfortunately, to follow Christ's example often means not making a huge scene, so the name of Christianity remains tarnished
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Oh, and I personally don't think that Christianity *has* to require that people give up on exploring magic. However, I'm a firm believer in the idea that while the Bible was inspired by God, it was written (and translated and manipulated) by Man, so it's only part of the story. If I found out tomorrow that all of the Scriptures were false beyond a shadow of a doubt, I would still have faith in God. I find that refreshing.
As far as rituals, I love ritual. I'm not Catholic, so I don't know all of the rules within that church, but I know that I enjoy Communion because it is a tangible way to my faith. Also, I love the liturgy and repetition simply because that's what I've found helps me feel the prescence of God more fully. For others it's through nature or song or crystals or Buddhist chants, and that's cool, but for me, I like the many church rituals that I've really come to experience as an adult.
*nods* because god doesn't need to be nicely squeezed into a plastic jar and labled "only truth" God is much bigger and has many paths to the inhabitants of this earth. However he is understood, God is meerly that higher power we stem from and will one day join in collective. It might be just the tip of the icecube of the glacier of the icechelf of the continent, but there is something bigger out there and we can be part of it.
Ritual is a way to connect and can be empowering and wonderful in any religion, but to make it nessesary is a means of control. Anyone who believes missing communion, confirmation, mass, or any other ritual is a sin is just renforcing the control.
"but to make it nessesary is a means of control. Anyone who believes missing communion, confirmation, mass, or any other ritual is a sin is just renforcing the control."
quiet_faerie, you won't find the Roman Catholic apostolic-successionist leadership even attempting to live up to it. They have always refused to bring forth. They denied the common people from practicing it. They reserved it only to those they allowed to enter what they call apostolic associations.
Let me know what you think. I'd like to develop a network of those who realize Jesus is a communist. Please leave your comment on the post if you will.
Also lifeintherain, have you ever seen this book review on "The Jesus Mysteries: Was the original Jesus a pagan god?"
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Also lets remember the mindframe and time used as the pallate to paint the Church. He was Christ, not MacGyver.
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As far as rituals, I love ritual. I'm not Catholic, so I don't know all of the rules within that church, but I know that I enjoy Communion because it is a tangible way to my faith. Also, I love the liturgy and repetition simply because that's what I've found helps me feel the prescence of God more fully. For others it's through nature or song or crystals or Buddhist chants, and that's cool, but for me, I like the many church rituals that I've really come to experience as an adult.
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Ritual is a way to connect and can be empowering and wonderful in any religion, but to make it nessesary is a means of control. Anyone who believes missing communion, confirmation, mass, or any other ritual is a sin is just renforcing the control.
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i TOTALLY agree. :)
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I'm guessing thats a fundie thing. Baptism can be a metophor for clensing of the soul.
"I wasn't raised Xtian"
But again, you were raised in a christian enviroment.
"there's no way a bunch of men could have written God's "divine words" without adding their own beliefs to the mix"
And even if they did, I'm certian it wouldn't be translated, and retranslated (once by a Mason by the way) without some changes made.
"i really hope you don't believe all Xtians are terrible"
No, but I believe the better portion of them are ignorant. Most are fine, it's the icons that are disgusting and drunk with power.
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Yes, Jesus is a communist.
quiet_faerie, you won't find the Roman Catholic apostolic-successionist leadership even attempting to live up to it. They have always refused to bring forth. They denied the common people from practicing it. They reserved it only to those they allowed to enter what they call apostolic associations.
Let me know what you think. I'd like to develop a network of those who realize Jesus is a communist. Please leave your comment on the post if you will.
Also lifeintherain, have you ever seen this book review on "The Jesus Mysteries: Was the original Jesus a pagan god?"
God bless,
Tom Usher
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