Love in the Time of Angels [Doctor Who s07e04 - The Angels Take Manhattan]

[lightcastle]

Is there some kind of rule that episodes taking place in New York must follow the title scheme "X takes Manhattan"?

Comments

[melebeth]

It was better than the previous episode, and also better than the previous angels episode. I liked that they managed to make them creepy again. However, I continue to feel that everything since Blink has been a sad dilution of a brilliant idea.

[lightcastle]

I agree wholeheartedly.

[lightcastle]

One thing that annoys me is that we often see them cornering people now, when the whole resolution of Blink depended on tricking them into looking at each other.

[melebeth]

Yes. I concur.

[dr_memory]

Charlie Anders, who I love dearly but have nearly 100% incompatible tastes with about nearly everything, managed to put her finger precisely on what annoyed me about this and really the whole Moffat era in general:

"it feels as though he's telling stories about plot devices, rather than using the plot devices to tell a story."

I'll grant that the cherubim were a great idea, even if it raises the slightly weird question of how the angels reproduce. Otherwise... meh. Meh meh meh.

[lightcastle]

THAT.

On the button. Full marks for Charlie.

[w1ldc47]

I agree with pretty much all of this. I thought sending Amy and Rory back in time together was a nice way to get them off the show without killing them outright. Sort of like trapping Rose in the alternate universe. If I wasn't already bored with them I would have been sad.

I liked that this season showed Rory to be competent and interesting, and showed Amy actually displaying some, you know, affection for him, so that I felt that I had been shown that she loved him enough to follow him back to 1938 instead of just the telling that we got up until this season.

I loved that we seem to be getting back the old River Song. She lost so much of her agency the last time we saw her, it's nice to have the playful, cocky, and above all else, competent Dr. Song back instead of the helpless programmed automaton we had last year.

[lightcastle]

If I wasn't already bored with them I would have been sad.

I watched it again with someone who hadn't yet seen it and was sadder. I think once you know they are really gone, the "Finally, they're gone!" part fades and you can appreciate what they were going for.

I've always loved Rory for the whole, "Solid is also sexy and attractive" story they wanted to tell, but because they never showed him actually in quiet moments of awesome (Very rarely) it all too often came across as "If you are nice and you wait and hang around, the hot chick will choose you." He's been better since they've not shown him as the boring counterpart to The Doctor. (And frankly, the "someone has to water the plants" solidity was taken by his dad in a much nicer way.)

It was very fun to see playful River again.