Has Marvel No Damn Sensitivity at All?

[lil_shepherd]

So, I am going to comment on Marvel's latest stupidity. I do not care that this is a spoiler. I really do not. So, while I will put in a gap, I am NOT putting this under a cut. I am too damn angry - and comics readers need to be warned, particularly if they are Captain America fans in any universe or medium

Comments

[andrewducker]

What on earth? That's just getting silly.

[lil_shepherd]

When the news first broke it was on a satire website, and everyone honestly thought it wasn't true. The aintitcoolnews weighed in with lots of scans and quotes, and now it is all over the press.

I have seen very few comments in support of Marvel on this. People are cancelling their pull lists over it. Of course it will eventually be retconned, but now the damage is done.

Mind you, I am learning things. Such as that Simon and Kirby received death threats from American Nazis unless they turned Cap to the Nazi side. Which they ignored.

[littlemissnovel]

I hope this blows up in Marvel face. And this is very much spitting against what Steve Rogers stood.

[lil_shepherd]

Marvel comics appear to be revelling in the publicity. It will be interesting to see how Disney react to another division shitting on one of their prime movie properties.

[littlemissnovel]

Wait people are buying this comic though? I really hope no one buys it and I want to see how Disney reacts to this as well.

[lil_shepherd]

There is a strong reaction against it in some quarters, but, as you can imagine, the sort of fanboy (and it is almost exclusively fanboys) who loves grim/dark and isn't particularly educated when it comes to other people's feelings are commenting that they can't see what the fuss is about because it will be retconned back at some stage.

Despite all the publicity I do not expect it to sell well. The CA title(s) have not been selling particularly well and this is meant to give them a boost. Normally, first issues do very well indeed. I am hoping that this one bucks the trend.

[starcat_jewel]

WHAT THE FUCKITY FUCKING FUCK??!!!

I'm not even much of a Captain America fan (the original was way too jingoistic for me even as a kid), and I'm outraged. Cap is supposed to represent the BEST of America, the ideals that we're meant to aspire to. This is beyond disgusting.

[lil_shepherd]

Well, Steve Rogers has occasionally been disgusted by current US politics and dropped the 'America' or changed his name entirely. But he has always remained a New Deal liberal (his best friend and protector as a child was gay, too.)

A critic once remarked of another book entirely (it was one of Monica Edwards' children's novels) that the most difficult thing in writing is to make a genuinely good person interesting. I guess the guys at Marvel have given up trying (about five or six years ago, probably.) The MCU is doing it rather well by reminding us that Steve Rogers is a good person, but is also flawed and can be very wrong. That must sting.

[madfilkentist]

I barely follow Marvel, and I have to go WHAT???
I've seen him temporarily brainwashed, recovering after a short time, but this sounds like a very different deal.

[lil_shepherd]

Well, they always lie at this point in a story arc, and Tom Brevoort is lying like a good one about the usual. I am sure there is a get-out clause somewhere... but the damage has been done.

[ext_850482]

In the main comic 'verse instead of a "What If..."? DO NOT WANT EVER!

[lil_shepherd]

Me either.