Wherein LiveJournal are once again jerks.
I had a paid livejournal account for a few years. It ran out recently, and apropos of happenings over the last little while I decided I wasn't going to renew it. I in fact decided this many months ago, but that's by the by.
By virtue of this charming fucking piece of assfuckery, does anyone reading this actually use this crossposting feature? Yes ( Read more... )
By virtue of this charming fucking piece of assfuckery, does anyone reading this actually use this crossposting feature? Yes ( Read more... )
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Not that I use or have any intention of using the cross-posting feature, but you do realise that people would still be perfectly able to cross-post copies of their comments to your locked journal posts, link to your locked journal posts and even post copies of the text of your locked journal posts even without the feature, right? (Noting that only those to whom you have given access will get back anything of interest from following the link, of course.) It's easy to do it manually.
Access to Livejournal posts is just via an ordinary URL. Anything from any post that a person can read on their computer can be copied and written to any other place to which they have write access. Twitter? Farcebork? Sod that, I can take it and put it on a web page, do some SEO on it and get it a nice, high rank in Google...
If you think some people might violate your privacy that way, don't give them access to your locked posts. Don't rely on their ignorance to prevent them acting on their malice. If a post deserves to be locked, let only those who ( ... )
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I don't see any reason for lj to facilitate it in the name of social network integration though.
Personally the whole crossposting of comments feature is not something I'd use anyway, however if they are going to have it, I don't see any good reason for it to work on locked posts. Oh and posts with screened comments. And in fact I think you should have to opt-in to it - yes I am ok with comments to my journal being crossposted. Whereas currently not only is it not opt-in, there is no opt our clause.
And it's not even that I necessarily think people will do it out of malice, if they've got comments set to post automatically, they might accidentally tick the box, or forget and do it, not realise the implications, or...
Ignorance vs malice you know.
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It is true that this feature makes it somewhat easier to cross-post comments, and I do agree that it would be better to make people stop and think about what they are doing when dealing with locked posts.
However, I also think we should bear in mind that this feature doesn't enable anyone to spread anything that they couldn't anyway, and that what gets cross-posted isn't even what the owner of the journal writes. The cross-posted material is a comment written by the cross-poster, and that person is entitled to do whatever they like with their writing. (Where you say it's fine for people to cross-post their own content? That applies to their comments too. Regardless of whether somebody else allows those comments to be hosted in their journal, that content still belongs to the writer.)
Perhaps of a little more concern is the combination of quoting functionality with cross-posting functionality, so that somebody can quote your words into their comments and cross-post, but even then, the native LJ quoting functionality is a bit of a pain ( ... )
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That said, if I ever find out that anyone in my (deliberately small and select) LJ-list is cross-posting anything from any of my journals without my express permission, there will be damage ensuing. Grrr arrgh!
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That's the thing, I want a notification when any comments on my entries are crossposted, and by whom. I see no reason why thus shouldn't happen if they are going to have this stupid system in place.
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And if they listen to their users - I'm not sure they will - then good, it goes away. However, what sort of arrogant tools are they that they marketed this as a good idea to begin with? Let alone put it into place with no options for feedback first, and made it compulsory?
Their attitude is as bad as their actions.
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Of course, it also means I can't read what is posted there or see what other people cross-post form me, but sometimes ignorance is bliss.
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I am actually planning to use the crosspost-to-facebook for public posts - it's a feature I do want. But allowing third party crossposting of locked posts to facebook? Fuck off.
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For me, my stalkbook identity is very different from my journal(s) one, and never the two shall meet type thing. However I grok that for some people it's not the same and that it's useful to be able to automagically crospost. That's fine, it's your content, you do with it as you see fit.
The comments thing though? I can't tell if it's really good or really badcrack that they were smoking when they dreamed up that as a good idea. If I wanted details of it spread far and wide across the interwebs, it wouldn't be a locked post you dumbasses.
Turdmongers.
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