Can anyone suggest a good male privilege checklist?

Sep 30, 2008 15:30

I don't mean the one at Alas, A Blog... but an actually comprehensive one that's at least as good as Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack.

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heinousbitca September 30 2008, 22:48:12 UTC
all i've got is cisgender privilege bingo.

...but why?

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lisaquestions September 30 2008, 22:52:04 UTC
I want to write a story about growing up and how fucked up it is to assume that trans girls receive male privilege just like all the cis boys do.

Like, I came across the assumption from a blog post a year ago that trans women have male privilege in not having to deal with society's expectations of what a woman should look like - and I came across this shortly after auntysarah described encountering exactly the same attitude and responding with something like "imagine dealing with that while you look like a boy."

So, I mean, there's a lot of male privilege that is based on being cissexual.

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heinousbitca September 30 2008, 23:07:02 UTC
(the "but, why?" was a reference to the ever-so-classic bingo card. if you somehow missed it when it took the genderqueeriverse by storm, here it is. blame/thank/hug/dis arion hunter (arionhunter.insanejournal.com) for it:


... )

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lisaquestions September 30 2008, 23:44:51 UTC
Yeah.

The theory assumes that trans girls are just like cis boys (or trans women are just like cis men) until transition, like the outward state of being male reflects an inner state of being a boy or man, and so a trans woman's experience of male privilege is necessarily identical to a cis man's experience of male privilege and please don't talk about passing privilege at all.

And, ah hell, another story about a trans woman that refers to her by her birth name. wtf. Yes, in this instance, she's the criminal, but that's no excuse.

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hazelsteapot October 1 2008, 03:47:32 UTC
Yeah, that's part of what inspired The Problem with "Privilege"...maybe I should link to it more explicitly. But I haven't had the sense that they care.

I was actually looking for such a list to be like, hmm, how did passing as/living as male affect my life and shape me? What privilege was that... and that one...I got nothin'. Like, there's nothing (almost nothing) you can look at and be like, yup that happens in my life or nope, it doesn't...

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lisaquestions October 1 2008, 06:52:11 UTC
I can read the checklist and identify with the way male privilege has been wielded against me, but the phrasing is pretty awful.

I seriously don't identify with ever having had male privilege, though. It may be time diluting my memories or it may be that I've never passed or presented myself as an adult man. I guess my worst habit is that I tend to physically surround myself with books and bags and purses in public to keep people from sitting near me.

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lisaquestions October 1 2008, 06:55:19 UTC
And of course, what this means is that any male privilege checklist I write would be mean feminist list of things that men do that piss me off.

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hazelsteapot October 1 2008, 15:48:06 UTC
Nod. I mean, you've read BI, I think MP was ascribed to me by others, and while that had some advantages, it doesn't really compensate for heightened misogyny now...

I guess I noticed just how much the way I was treated changed, the frequency of sexual harassment, the frequency of getting shut down in conversations and the power of the statement 'you're talking too much' rising... so, I feel like being treated as such affected my life, but it's def. passing-as-male priv, not actual male priv...

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late to the party, as usual... bird_of_paradox October 1 2008, 10:48:15 UTC
Is this any use?

White Privilege and Male Privilege:
A Personal Account of Coming to See Correspondences Through Work in Women's Studies
By Peggy McIntosh

http://www.feministezine.com/feminist/modern/White-Male-Privilege.html

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lisaquestions October 6 2008, 18:44:32 UTC
There's no arguing. I learned the other day that drag queens are masculine middle-class white men who have prosperous jobs and expensive cars.

I'm not okay with the Democrats, but I want Obama to win. Much preferable.

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lisaquestions October 6 2008, 18:44:56 UTC
Oh, and people were bashing SCC and not, say, that stupid flier? :(

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