Comments | little_fool: the [not so] divine comedy

little_fool

the [not so] divine comedy

Sep 16, 2008 21:31

My friend of 14532596 years and I have been having a heated discussion for the past couple of days (through MySpace) on "Hell's Dynamics". He doesn't think it's fair for ANYONE, no matter what they did, to be down there for Eternity. I, on the otherhand, do. I mean, people are CONSCIENCE of what they're doing. If they know something like MURDER ( Read more... )

wtf, religion, patrick, omg

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dungeonwriter September 17 2008, 04:59:45 UTC

I definitely think it's unfair because it's disproportionate. Hitler may have eradicated the vast majority of my family, but even he couldn't torment someone eternally. No matter how terrible the act is, eventually there is an end.

Now, am I saying that an evil person should recieve the same reward as a good person? Of course not. The problem is, you and Pat are stuck in binary thinking.

Either Heaven or Hell.

That eventually means that there is a line drawn, between the two. So a little to the right and you're fine, and to the left and you're not. And that line is hard to define.

But what about thinking of just an afterlife? And the more good deeds we do, the better the afterlife is. It's like...we all get a plot of land. If you, my dear friend, cultivate it with crops, you'll have food all winter. If you pour toxic waste on the land, you get a horrible poisoned place.

So it's really not heaven or hell. It's what we make.

Re: more thoughts dungeonwriter September 17 2008, 05:51:58 UTC

Another thought ( ... )

Re: more thoughts little_fool September 17 2008, 06:08:37 UTC

I'm not sure if I understood all that but . . . Why would a Jewish person go to hell? :/ I don't believe God judges based on religion, but rather, our actions and that we believe and have faith in The Lord. Christianity doesn't dislike other religions-- at least, not Catholism. That'd be kind of hypocritical seeing as how our Old Testament contains several pieces from the Jewish Quran. Christian were Jewish. Then Jesus (who was also a Jew!) was born. And well, everything after Him is what separate our religions.

Don't worry about the afterlife, just try to live your life to the best you can and trust that God will love and accept and welcome you home.

I don't worry about my after-life, but sometimes i do find myself thinking what it'll be like. I like discussion, too :)!

Re: more thoughts dungeonwriter September 17 2008, 06:27:38 UTC

Well, Christianity believes in the verse "No one approaches the Father but through me." (John 14:6) So a lot of Christians do feel Jews are going through hell, since they don't believe Jesus was God. I personally think that verse can be interpreted far more ecumenically, but a majority of Christians do not. They feel any faith but Christianity leads to hell.

This does not apply to Catholocism, since they made their peace with Jews and have signed the Nostre Aetate which says "God holds the Jews most dear for the sake of their Fathers; He does not repent of the gifts He makes or of the calls He issues-such is the witness of the Apostle.(11) In company with the Prophets and the same Apostle, the Church awaits that day, known to God alone, on which all peoples will address the Lord in a single voice and "serve him shoulder to shoulder" (Soph. 3:9).(12)"

Excellent document.

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styromgalleries September 17 2008, 05:05:36 UTC

Wow. What a heavy discussion. I'll throw my thoughts in, too, since you asked ( ... )

more thoughts styromgalleries September 17 2008, 05:18:06 UTC

God didn't have to sacrifice Himself for us in the person of Jesus on earth. When Adam and Eve - of their own free will - chose to listen to the serpent in the garden of Eden, God could have just said right then and there, "I don't care about these humans anymore. They disobeyed me and so they are just going to all have to suffer the consequences ( ... )