Updates to Omniture on LiveJournal

Sep 17, 2007 12:25

We’re making a change to the way we've been gathering statistics on LiveJournal and wanted to let you know the plan and details in advance.

Back in January, we announced that we'd start using Omniture SiteCatalyst as the system that lets us dig deeper into how members and visitors use LiveJournal. Back then, we had only used Omniture's tracking ( Read more... )

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trukkle September 17 2007, 20:10:11 UTC
Yay, unnamed random_personnel_05 making vague announcements on a tangental journal about the stealth gathering of information. Awesome.

I think somewhere along the line lj_biz and news have become mixed up. To the point that I defriended news due to it's spammy advertising.

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eevee September 17 2007, 20:13:18 UTC
Browser stats are stealth gathering of information? Even though they could just parse access logs if they wanted to?

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trukkle September 17 2007, 20:19:32 UTC
It could be argued that if that's all they really wanted to do, then they'd just do it. In fact i can't see why they wouldn't be doing it already, in order to provide optimal service and reduce the crunch at busy times.

Anyway, emphasis on the obscure announcement rather than what they're actually doing.

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lurkitty September 17 2007, 20:13:52 UTC
Why are you burying this on lj biz if you're giving instructions for everyone to optout????? You should either make this an opt-in program, or send a message to ALL USERS informing them of this potential breech of their right to privacy.

If it is so benign, why have an opt-out option?

HIRE A PR PROFESSIONAL. Once and for all, we are here because this is not MySpace. QUIT MAKING THIS MYSPACE. WE ARE NOT 15.

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alibee September 17 2007, 22:33:54 UTC
And yet, so many here act as if they are.

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lurkitty September 17 2007, 22:37:31 UTC
Are you implying that making a comment is acting immaturely?

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alibee September 17 2007, 22:41:02 UTC
No.

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teostra September 17 2007, 20:16:50 UTC
Where's our policy update, LJ? I think that more then a month qualifies as "the next few weeks."

As for this, wouldn't it work better to accept some volunteers? Then, you know you're going to get users who are familiar with the site and will make more use of the site. With a random selection of 5% of the population,there's a huge chance of getting inactive journals, etc. It seems to me that opting-IN would work out best for the user base, and the statistics gathering.

Also, please share this information on News? Or is it because a wider knowledge of the opt-out would eliminate too many potential journals to bug?

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pauamma September 18 2007, 05:41:39 UTC
you know you're going to get users who are familiar with the site and will make more use of the site.
Thereby guaranteeing completely meaningless results, due to biased sample.

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grumpydoctor September 17 2007, 20:18:40 UTC
This is unacceptable. I have very private information on my publicly accessible journal, and it is very important to me that a third-party statistics tracking service not have easy access to which type of furry hentai spirit I am according to quizilla.com. I don't care about your "usability" or whatever buzzword crusade you're on this week: this is about making your users happy. These "tracking cookies" represent foreign code on MY machine, code that I never approved. The fact that you only announced this on an official business journal specifically for announcing business-side decisions that every neurotic, paranoid LJ-maintaining idiot watches specifically so they can "catch" you doing things like this and complain only compounds the issue ( ... )

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ems September 17 2007, 20:24:30 UTC
The sad thing is, several times whilst reading this, I thought you were being serious. ;D

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redscorner September 17 2007, 20:43:55 UTC
Wow. Way to take information about something it appears you know very little about and mock a very large group of adults who have maintained a paid account since they got it in a comment to a post where the exact problem with LJ/6A vs. Their Paying Customers is so brilliantly illuminated. Because of course, toeing the line of "It's child porn, won't somebody think of the children?!OMGBBQSAUCE" lends you so much credibility and makes it appropriate for you to mock those who have spent a lot of money maintaining a paid account with extra features, only to discover that they were giving money to a company that has no problems spitting in the faces of their customers.

*gives thumb up* Good job.

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grumpydoctor September 17 2007, 21:12:27 UTC
Look, I may not be a member of a "group of very large adults who have maintained a paid account since they got it," but I still fully support your fight against the abusive overlords of LJ and their appalling desire to find out what order you click links in so that they can make those links more convenient for you. Don't be silenced! Stand up for your Internet Rights!

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ladysorka September 17 2007, 20:20:19 UTC
Oh no!

They will figure out your browser and your operating system!

EVERYBODY PANIC!

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ladysorka September 17 2007, 20:24:00 UTC
OMG! I run Firefox on Linux! They're going to send out the whole secret ninja army!

RUN AND HIDE!

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nedlum September 17 2007, 21:29:06 UTC

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