Policy/procedure change and account suspension discussion

[theljstaff]

We are planning one additional clarification to the Policies and Procedures. It has been the long-standing practice of LiveJournal to treat photographs of post-pubescent minors (under age 18) in which genitalia or breasts are clearly shown, or photographs where sexualization of a minor is apparent, as unacceptable content, with exception of

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[polyemtgirl]

I really like the option of suspending single entries. That seems MUCH better than suspending entire journals when there is only a one time violation!

EDIT: HOLY CRAP I'm the first to comment!

[polyemtgirl]

true, but I still don't usually see this stuff till at least a few pages of comments have been left...

[right]

Re option #2: Would suspended journals who deleted be eligible for purging? I hear that suspended journals currently can't be purged for legal reasons, so this may create some sort of conflict. It's also possible that I'm wrong on why suspended journals aren't purged. I don't really care about the purging thing; I'm just curious as to what issues this might bring up.

[teostra]

The suspension of single entries make much more sense than suspending entire journals.

[spectralbovine]

I like the first option for sure. Locking down the offending entry seems like a much better idea than locking the entire journal, especially if the user is likely to be compliant about taking the entry down. Seems more fair.

I like the second option instinctually, but I can see how it might not be the best idea. I think it's good in some cases but not good in others. I mean, if someone is suspended for having a very offensive journal, it seems like part of the point to remove that offensive material from people's eyes. But if someone is suspended for something minor (and they are likely to be unsuspended eventually), it, again, seems more fair to allow a read-only version for the person's friends. This one is stickier.

[azurelunatic]

He may be talking about cases where an abusive user creates a blatantly offensive journal, and then spams communities and other users, and/or adds a bunch of users, in an attempt to shock and/or just be an ass.

[gmth]

It makes a lot more sense to suspend single entries as opposed to entire journals, yes.

Any chance you would ever reconsider the deletion of all comments made by a suspended account in other people's journals? I have several posts in my journal where the discussions were completely eviscerated when someone was suspended, because all you see is "Reply from suspended user" where a great comment used to be. Comments are preserved when accounts are deleted and purged, why not when they are suspended?

[naamah_darling]

I second this. A journal's owner can delete comments if she wants them gone.

[lied_ohne_worte]

Aren't the comments just hidden, not entirely deleted (yes, effectively, that's the same thing, but still)?

Depending on what someone was suspended for, hiding their comments (and comm entries, I believe) makes sense, though - if an account is suspended that was created only for spamming, or for posting links to something virus-infested, or for threatening people, it's good that all which was posted with it becomes inaccessible, so that no-one else happens across it.

[gmth]

...if an account is suspended that was created only for spamming, or for posting links to something virus-infested, or for threatening people, it's good that all which was posted with it becomes inaccessible, so that no-one else happens across it.

Well, there is that, yes. I hadn't thought of that, because the discussions I was talking about weren't with that type of account. Maybe there's a way to flag the accounts for the cause of the deletion so the comments of troll accounts are deleted but others aren't...? I don't know. I have no idea how these things are done, therefore I assume it must be easy to do. ;-)