Pagan roots of Christianity

[papermoonriver]

GO HERE -- "Zeitgeist" the movie.

Watch it (the first one, not Addendum) when you have time.  Part 1 is extremely interesting and cool to me.  I don't think I take the message exactly how the filmmaker intended, but it certainly changes my perspective.

Part 1 and 2 and Addendum have less interest to pagans, but quite a bit of interest to human beings

Comments

[alu_chan]

I saw that last year, but I've always known of Christianity's borrowing from other religions. Every religion borrows from everyone else really, so it wasn't too big of a deal to me. Amusing, but not earth shattering.

and lol my patron was Jesus before Jesus.

[papermoonriver]

Yeah, most do of course, and I have known about much of it for quite some time. I just really appreciate the presentation and the thorough discussion of the astrological aspects. That's what was new to me.

Your patron? How do you mean?

[alu_chan]

Yeah, that part was pretty spiffy.

My patron is Horus, and if I remember correctly, they use him as an example as one of the many gods Jesus is very similar to.

[papermoonriver]

Ahh, yes yes. :)

[nightshade_oak]

I dislike it intensely. It's very poorly researched and relies on flashy video editing to make its point.

My theory is that it's a study in irony, as the main thesis of the movie seems to be "people are stupid sheep and should research stuff before believing it", and yet 80% of the people who like the movie are stupid sheep who believe the movie utterly without doing any independent research.

MMM THAT'S SOME GOOD IRONY.

However, if it ISN'T attempting intentionally to be ironic in that way, then I have no respect for it at all.

Forgive me. I've run into too many people whose idea of an argument is "watch this movie lol".

[annabellle]

actually, despite my enjoying it, i do agree. most of what was in the movie i had already stumbled across in one lace or another. there's parts of it i think are great, and i have done my research, but alot of what is printed or posted on the topics are fuly oppinions, without much to back them up.
I like that like what the bleep do we know? it just makes you think, and as long as it suceeds into making you think, then it's done its bit, whether or not it's true

[papermoonriver]

I certainly appreciate your perspective.

I can assure you, I'm a research whore so I'll be tackling these subjects pretty intensely. And I am TOTALLY with you on the concept of irony. What I *do* appreciate about the film is that it has something specific to say, offers a different perspective, and does make one think.

I'm disappointed that you find it to be poorly researched, and so I'm curious as to what I'll find on my own. (If you're wondering why I haven't found anything out yet, it's because I'm only home with time to sleep during the week, what with a full time job AND school full time.) The thing is, he obviously has a very strong point to make, and he should understand that if he wants to make that point effectively he should present an airtight case.

I don't appreciate the emotional language. Tends to strike me as misleading. But we shall see!

Thanks for your POV. :)

[annabellle]

my brother was telling me that apparently there is a second one, though i can't find it. i'm also looking for the dvd form as my computer's decided it doesn't like playing movies music....anything but text really.
excellent movie though.

[papermoonriver]

The second one is on the same website. If you click on the link, the first movie is on the right and the second movie (Addendum) is on the left. Also, you can purchase the DVD on the website for like $5.

And I agree with you on both What the Bleep? and on making you think. It's a different perspective, which I ALWAYS appreciate.