Orkut message - LJ FOAF

Feb 24, 2004 12:35

Since I've seen a lot of demand for FOAF from orkut, I thought I'd post a message to my friends on the site, a lot of whom are semantic webbers. This is the post I made to my Friends of Friends network on orkut - a message that got sent out to 750+ people ( Read more... )

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revgeorge February 24 2004, 10:43:20 UTC
FWIW SongBuddy, which uses friendships similar to LJ, exports FOAF at http://www.songbuddy.com/lc/users/foaf/username and I should have the FOAF import code done tonight. I think that FOAF is going to be the only way to manage all these social sites.

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crschmidt February 24 2004, 10:57:09 UTC
I'm already thinking of what applications I have that I can add FOAF type data too. For example, I have a web app that allows people to find others who share classes with them. With FOAF type data, this is trivial:

Foaf:person->chris
attendsUniversity UIUC
hasClass Math285, Altgeld Hall, Alexy Stepanov
hasClass CS232, DCL 1320, Craig Zilles

Then simply use FOAF:knows to spider out friendships looking for people who share the same school, the same classes, etc.

Suddenly, you've turned a unique data model that I used in my specific case into a nationwide thing. People can easily fine other people who share classes.

However, until we see a killer app that does this well, we're stuck. We need this killer app before this stuff will go big. We need big sites to export the data they already have, so it can all be integrated into one place. We need all kinds of things, and none of them are even that difficult - they just require cooperation.

And cooperating to share data is what the Semantic Web is all about.

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revgeorge February 24 2004, 11:23:35 UTC
I think it was Scott McNealy who said "The value of a network is the square of its nodes." FOAF certainly is more valuable today thanks to your efforts to add 2 million more data sets, and I think 2004 will be the year for FOAF. I don't understand why people in a crowded environment like social networking sites wouldn't make it easy for people to bring their friends in quickly and easily with FOAF.

I think that the killer apps might come in different forms too though. I like to think SongBuddy will become a killer app when someone creates an FOAF-reading plugin to get recommendations, but there's also spam filtering, webs of trust, and more. I think that they will come from sites like LiveJournal exporting their friendship data for other people to analyze, rather than people hand-generating them ( ... )

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