Intact dilation and extraction is (was) used in cases where a much-wanted pregnancy had gone sadly very wrong. This is not some woman in labor saying "I want a mulligan on the whole thing," which is what the anti-choice side would have you believe. It was most frequently chosen after lengthy discussion between the pregnant woman and her physician as the best way to preserve her fertility or for general safety. And yes, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists opposed the ban. The medical procedure is not pretty (as most are not), but is not the brutal procedure that the anti-choice side of the house would have you believe. I have a complete statistical analysis from 1995 and I'm sure the percentages have not changed much
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Intact dilation and extraction is (was) used in cases where a much-wanted pregnancy had gone sadly very wrong.
that's not necessarily true.
D&X was simply a later-term abortion method. Many later-term abortions are elective.
On abortioninfo we see women having later-term abortions usually because they didn't realize they were pregnant until later in the pregnancy. Many women still have periods during pregnancy, or are irregular normally and so don't realize they are pregnant. We've also had women who couldn't get the money together, or who just plain enter denial and hope the whole situation goes away, or who freeze up and can't decide, or who think they are going to go through with the pregnancy but change their minds at the last minute (e.g. because the guy leaves).
I support later-term elective abortion as a right. But I'm not going to lie in order to support it. In my experience, it's usually elective, not due to fetal defects or to preserve the mother's health.
The women having abortions after 15 weeks attributed their lateness in obtaining the procedure to not having realized earlier that they were pregnant (or how long they had been pregnant), having had difficulty in arranging the abortion and (in the case of teenagers) having been afraid to tell their parents they were pregnant.
2. The reason the head is collapsed is not due to law, but because the head is the largest part of the fetus and the most difficult to birth. D&E doesn't dilate the cervix the full way (IIRC), and it's the method that causes the least amount of trauma to the woman-- and arguably the fetus as well. It's a pretty instantaneous death, if you want to word it that way.
3. They did indeed.
4. (US-centric) The method that IS legal is... well, it involves dismembering the fetus in utero so the pieces can be removed. Not only is this more dangerous for the woman, but it's possibly the most gruesome method of abortion imaginable. Basically the partial birth abortion ban made the most humane procedure illegal.
I've tried pointing out that PBA is done for the health of the mother or when something has gone horribly wrong-- it's usually when a baby is very much wanted and banning the procedure only makes a personal tragedy worse-- but it doesn't usually go over very well. Apparently going into full labor to birth a stillborn somehow isn't
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Second: Why is this method used? It is used to protect the health of the woman, because a regular birth or c-section would be too dangerous, right? The antis claim on their blog that this method is used ONLY b/c of the lawThe antis are wrong, but so are you. Intact D&X was performed because it's safer to collapse the fetal skull and then deliver the fetus than it is to cut up the fetus inside the mother and deliver the parts (which is what is done now that intact D&E is not permitted
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I was thinking about pointing out that this method is only used when the woman's health or life is in danger and we can't ban a medical procedure just b/c someone thinks it is grotesque.
Find some (preferably graphic) resources for grotesque/horrific/disgusting methods in medicine. Parasitology is good source. Basically anything around abdominal surgery, too. And usage of forceps during birth. Well, basically whole medicine.
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that's not necessarily true.
D&X was simply a later-term abortion method. Many later-term abortions are elective.
On abortioninfo we see women having later-term abortions usually because they didn't realize they were pregnant until later in the pregnancy. Many women still have periods during pregnancy, or are irregular normally and so don't realize they are pregnant. We've also had women who couldn't get the money together, or who just plain enter denial and hope the whole situation goes away, or who freeze up and can't decide, or who think they are going to go through with the pregnancy but change their minds at the last minute (e.g. because the guy leaves).
I support later-term elective abortion as a right. But I'm not going to lie in order to support it. In my experience, it's usually elective, not due to fetal defects or to preserve the mother's health.
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because the Guttmacher Institute's study disagrees with you.
The women having abortions after 15 weeks attributed their lateness in obtaining the procedure to not having realized earlier that they were pregnant (or how long they had been pregnant), having had difficulty in arranging the abortion and (in the case of teenagers) having been afraid to tell their parents they were pregnant.
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3. They did indeed.
4. (US-centric) The method that IS legal is... well, it involves dismembering the fetus in utero so the pieces can be removed. Not only is this more dangerous for the woman, but it's possibly the most gruesome method of abortion imaginable. Basically the partial birth abortion ban made the most humane procedure illegal.
I've tried pointing out that PBA is done for the health of the mother or when something has gone horribly wrong-- it's usually when a baby is very much wanted and banning the procedure only makes a personal tragedy worse-- but it doesn't usually go over very well. Apparently going into full labor to birth a stillborn somehow isn't ( ... )
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Find some (preferably graphic) resources for grotesque/horrific/disgusting methods in medicine. Parasitology is good source. Basically anything around abdominal surgery, too. And usage of forceps during birth.
Well, basically whole medicine.
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