ARIZONA...GODDAMMIT...

Apr 25, 2010 11:20

This state wants to pass a fucking law that allows the INS to arrest and detain anyone that is BELIEVED to be an illegal immigrant ( Read more... )

laws, immigration, racism, arizona

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exatron April 25 2010, 16:18:32 UTC
Arizona's governor signed it into law Friday afternoon, partially to shore up her right-wing base and avoid losing the Republican nomination for governor.

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lobo_do_mundo April 26 2010, 04:42:12 UTC
Probably, I hope SHE gets her ass kicked or dies from a disease for signing her name to that racist law.

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navajo April 25 2010, 17:17:35 UTC
Agreed!

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jovee April 25 2010, 17:23:02 UTC
Do you know why the law was passed to begin with?

Though I am someone of "alternative hue" I was never raised to accept the knee-jerk reaction to cry racism as so many others do. After assessing the history of violence that has begun spilling into the country from Mexico by way of the drug and human trafficking going on, I'm still unable to get my internal victim to scream injustice.

Hell, my roommate from Mexico, here on worker's visa, and does often attest to the drug lords and violence rotting out his home country.

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lobo_do_mundo April 26 2010, 04:47:57 UTC
Dude, what about the innocent immigrants that could be arrested and detained JUST for being different and won't be released until they are verified. And this can happen over and over and over again, despite the efforts to separate the good from the bad.

I only get pissed if this affect INNOCENT people of color. I'll be damned if this gives a state the power to hunt ethnic people and arrest them.

May I remind you, this is only if they THINK you're illegal. In theory, I could go there, speak nothing BUT French and they could lock me up for being an "African Illegal."

If I was white, they'd wouldn't care because he's a Frenchman and white and therefore not a threat. He must work here. No need to bother the white guy, right?

Think twice man.

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jovee April 26 2010, 21:15:49 UTC
I've just gotten home from work, read the law and none of what you just said is legally possible.

On the plus side, the law says any person or persons that do fall under your scenario, (that is, anyone who is falsely detained or charged.) whether by accident or not, has the right to take whatever agency has done them wrong to court. The state then awards upwards of $5,000 for each day the person was wrongfully held.

The law requires more than just suspicion for any action to take place. Even if a cop is foolish enough to go on suspicion alone, there is a list of acceptable documents that can be presented. I carry one of them all the time in my back pocket, a driver's license.

There aren't any Death Panels on there either.

EDIT: The Death Panels part is a joke btw. XD

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dar_han May 4 2010, 05:22:02 UTC
If every French policeman who mistook me for a possible Arab terrorist were required to pay me $5,000, I'd be insanely rich right now XD
Heck, they even arrested me for trying to LEAVE France without legal papers (long story short, I was a kid and my uncles never bothered to sort out my papers despite what they told my mother)

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ziabandito555 April 25 2010, 18:35:59 UTC
I'm not sure if it is racism so much as a poorly constructed law. I understand the reasoning, after all the drug wars in Mexico are spilling over into Arizona.

But the method of the implementation of the law is much more worrying. The reasons for a person to be pulled over are arbitrary with few controls on the cops. The methods of checking papers hasn't be clarified (as in what documents are allowable and not contested). Deportation and sentencing has also not been clarified. The law is a poorly designed law in other words. Which is far more dangerous and troubling.

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lobo_do_mundo April 26 2010, 04:49:09 UTC
That's awesome man. Boycott Arizona! Got to New Mexico! It's awesome! (I was there earlier this month.)

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