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Jan 12, 2009 17:09

So there's a trend on facebook about donating your status to a cause. Obama's supporters did it, for instance, to spread awareness and show support. If it looks like he's gonna win, he'll win. That was the thought, anyway. Thankfully it worked. Lately I've been seeing a ton for Gaza. I don't talk about Israel much at all with anyone at this school ( Read more... )

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wenchamuffin January 13 2009, 00:49:16 UTC
I consider myself a fluffy liberal, and honestly, I agree with you. I get frustrated by the myopia of America's activist youth -- pick a cause and run with it. It makes sense, on the one hand, because you simply can't fight every battle. On the other hand, how can you rally people to your cause when there are a million young activists just like you with a million separate causes?

What we need now is a total overhaul of mindset. Of course, that won't happen. So until then, FUCK. THIS. SHIT.

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loneronin January 13 2009, 02:24:08 UTC
This is why a massive psychic shared experience or an extraterrestrial threat would work. mindset alteration!

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ravnosx26 January 13 2009, 11:31:43 UTC
See, this is why the elderly have laws protecting them from ageism, but the young do not. If we could rally together and form a lobby, we could easily make it illegal to deny someone a job because they are too young and inexperienced.

Curse you ADD!!!!

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skola January 13 2009, 01:45:45 UTC
My issue is that this is a debate with no room for subtlety.

As an Israeli, I have some conflicted emotions on the matter.

However, anything I say for Israel is immediately dismissed as me having bought into Israel's "propaganda".

Anything I say against Israel is immediately taken and used, mostly out of context as a "here is an Israeli who thinks that Israel is horrible and evil!"

Anything I say in either direction will also be discounted by people who disagree with it because I've been living in the states for a while now, so clearly I must be ignorant of everything that's happening.

There's just no room for talk, and when there's no room for talk, there is only continued violence.

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loneronin January 13 2009, 02:23:26 UTC
Propaganda's overcome by citing sources, I've found. Or making it up. Also the best way to assault people's arguments. Works wonders at a school of liberal nut jobs and a hometown of conservative tight asses. :)

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skola January 13 2009, 02:27:11 UTC
Still doesn't help when one has my background.

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ravnosx26 January 13 2009, 11:35:23 UTC
It frustrates me to no end that Napoleon got a bad rap for this reason. I mean, everywhere he conquered, prosperity followed in his wake. Fuck, under his reign, even the JEWS did well. And this was in a time when (like ALL other times in history) EVERYBODY was trying to fuck them over. But no, because he FORCED everybody into living comfortably, he's a bad, bad man. Plans for world domination aren't bad, aspirations to force the world into submission are. And yes, it's a fine line, but it EXISTS, dammit!

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dedohioskai January 13 2009, 15:17:25 UTC
instrumentality.

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loneronin January 13 2009, 19:04:39 UTC
it depresses me that i got that reference.

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dedohioskai January 13 2009, 19:06:32 UTC
and under that layer of depression is a fundamental longing to melt into a goo of understanding with everyone else.

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