meta: The Memory of Snow: The Snowmen.

[lonewytch]

For me this was just a totally fantastic Christmas special. I don't have an awful lot to say about the actual plot involving the Great Intelligence, but there's a whole heap of stuff going on around the concepts of mirroring, memory, above/below, who Clara is and there's some links into the Pond era.

Comments

[stars_inthe_sky]

Brilliantly detailed observations as always. I'm left wondering if Clara will ever actually board the TARDIS to travel, or if she will actually keep dying and popping up elsewhere.

Two references to S5 that confused me:
-"The Eleventh Hour the duckpond was key in ultimately understanding the nature of the the cracks." Because the cracks were taking pieces out of reality (like Amy's parents) and ruining reality's continuity/logic ("why do you call it a duckpond if there aren't any ducks")?

-"...vast amount of foreshadowing of River's arc that we saw in A Christmas Carol." Say what? I must've missed that completely...

[elisi]

-"...vast amount of foreshadowing of River's arc that we saw in A Christmas Carol." Say what? I must've missed that completely...
I wrote down the basics once. lonewytch has more indepth stuff delving into over- and underworld etc.

[stars_inthe_sky]

Bookmarked for later, thanks! I love your and her metas, so I'll definitely be reading soon.

[lonewytch]

Thanks, i'm glad you liked it.

Yeah ,that's what i wonder about Clara too, whether it will be different versions of the same girl all through series 7b.

Yeah, the duckpond was one of our first signs in series 5 that all was not well. It was a tell of sorts. Here the fact that the pond never thaws is a tell too.

Elisi tracks it perfectly in her meta. My Christmas Carol meta is posted on another site, and needs to be gathered and posted here (eventually) but basically the whole thing with the Woman kept on ice (effectively frozen in time) the way that River is to the Doctor and that every time he visits her more of her time is gone, counting down to her death - just like with Abigail. There's also a heck of a lot on links back to the Library episodes with both eps full of Upper/Middle/Underworld imagery.

I've got a couple of Christmas meta posted offsite...maybe this is my cue to overhaul it and post it here during the season!

[wander_realtai]

Love this bit of meta!

[lonewytch]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.

[lonewytch]

Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it. I can never analyse on the first viewing, i just go along for the ride. Then on the second viewing i'm there scribbling madly with a notepad! My brain implosion usually occurs post-meta!

[a_phoenixdragon]

This was brilliant. You brought me near tears with how awesome and exact and perfect this is. Thank you, bb!! *Is proud*

Mmmmm...as for this: Great Intelligence: Now the dream outlives the dreamer and can never die.

What if there comes a time when our dreams no longer need us? This will be the time of Angels.

The angels are so very heavy and prevelant on the Moff's Who. Kind killers. Bringers of destruction. Also parallel with goodness and light. Angel means two different things in Moff's Who. But that quote haunts me. And Moffat is not adverse to making everything seem seperate, even as he parallels the hell out of it!

*HUGS*

[elisi]

Plus, the Doctor is an Angel... Time of Angels. Doctor Who. The Doctor as fairy tale, brought to life/Clara inventing stories about her origin.

[lonewytch]

*nods* He totally is an Angel. He'a brought to life by Clara like in the Nutcracker...and she herself is a dream that's become real?

[elisi]

Mostly, I feel like this:

[lonewytch]

I would LOVE it so much if she turned out to be River, who had somehow escaped the Library. There are a lot of parallels between her and Oswin, certain similarities of character.