Comments | lonewytch: meta: The Memory of Snow: The Snowmen.

lonewytch

meta: The Memory of Snow: The Snowmen.

Dec 27, 2012 14:12

For me this was just a totally fantastic Christmas special. I don't have an awful lot to say about the actual plot involving the Great Intelligence, but there's a whole heap of stuff going on around the concepts of mirroring, memory, above/below, who Clara is and there's some links into the Pond era.

( Run you clever boy...and remember. )

myth and metaphor, damn you moffat, meta, doctor who

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denny_dc December 29 2012, 16:27:43 UTC

I am wowed by your insightful, evocative, essay (or meme:)...it's wonderful and great writing (I'm going to check out your fanfiction!). I want friends outside of Live Journal to read this. Can I share?

lonewytch December 29 2012, 19:09:07 UTC

Thank you so much for such an utterly lovely comment! It's fantastic to login and see a comment like this, it really makes my day. Yes, please feel free to share all you want! I'm pleased it makes you want to check out my fanfic. :D I also have essays like this on a number of other eps, just in case you're interested. They are at the top of my masterlist: http://lonewytch.livejournal.com/4421.html

blencathra December 30 2012, 13:08:49 UTC

Another super meta! You put into words what I'm vaguely thinking.

Count me as another who is convinced that Clara is River. I think River is attempting to escape from the Library with the help of CAL (CALara?) There seem to be such similarities between the two characters.

BTW Lis Sladen's middle name was Clara.

lonewytch January 4 2013, 16:57:07 UTC

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

It's a good theory...i would be pleased if that were the case as River is my fave character. There are huge similarities. Maybe Cal is trying to manifest her in the outside world, using the imprint of someone else who nearly died - ie a vacant body on the point of death. But can't stabilise her, as the body of whoever Clara is, and River are both "dead."

I'm loving a lot of the different theories going round atm and can see how many of them could be true. I wonder what the Lord Troll Moff is gonna pull out of the bag though!!!

10littlebullets December 31 2012, 21:03:38 UTC

Moffat might have just tipped his entire hand, at least regarding the Clara mystery, with that line about dreams outliving their dreamers. I'm 95% certain that's what she is. Not only does it fit nicely with Moffat's preoccupation with the persistence of memory, we've already seen her do it once: in Asylum, human-Oswin is long dead, consumed by the Dalek transformation, but dream-Oswin lives on, is fully human, and is ultimately the one in control. No wait, twice: barmaid-Clara dreams up Miss Montague, and even after she's dead, it's Miss Montague and the family's mourning for her that manage to melt the snow.

Ideas above her station. The junior entertainment manager turned genius hacker. The Dalek dreaming of being human. The barmaid turned governess. Both are true, but the one she really believes in is the one that gets things done, and what Clara believes herself to be is always more than what her outward situation would suggest. She's smaller on the outside. And the dreams within have a funny knack of coming true by ( ... )

lonewytch January 4 2013, 17:11:48 UTC

Thanks for such a fab comment ( ... )

janie_aire December 31 2012, 21:06:53 UTC

Okay, I have a theory about Clara. (I also posted some massive meta here on LJ, please check it out ( ... )

lonewytch January 4 2013, 17:25:10 UTC

Read your meta and loved it ( ... )