meta: Not Everything Ends. Not Love. Not Always. - Hide.

[lonewytch]

In which we travel along the World Tree, the Forest is the Afterlife, there is both Love and Death, we are on the Road of Trials stage, the Doctor is Alec Palmer and River Song is everywhere.

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[radiolaires]

*screams in joy and merriment* Oh that was so great, so, so great. Straight to the point.
All the mirrors, all the rivers, all the trees and The Tempest!

I'm trying very hard not to trust that theory Clara might be related to the Doctor -because Moffat *shakes fist*-, but holy mackerel the hints are so numerous... As for your speculation about River saving the world at the end of the series, that would only be one step further TATM in which the Doctor did nothing.

It was not very constructive but your meta was great and organised so well what I thought of the parallels in the episode, I'm just left squeeing on my chair.

[lonewytch]

Thank you so much for such a lovely comment, I'm thrilled that you enjoyed it so much!!!

I know, i'm all like "but, hmmm, is Moff just trolling us AGAIN" because as we all know, that could well be the case. The family thing could be a huge red herring. ~shakes fist at Moff~

[radiolaires]

You're welcome!

I'm not sure Moffat is such a troll, the hints and symbols he used seemed pretty consistent with the overall arcs in the previous seasons... I think the family thing will be right, but not necessarily as we expected.

[elisi]

Incidentally "what can you possibly be" are the Doctor's words to the Pandorica as he waits for it to open in the Underworld of the Pandorica opens. The Pandorica turns out to be life/death combined.
And all I'm doing is chortling to myself and going SHANSHU! (Which won't mean anything to you unless you've seen Angel the Series. *g*)

I am more and more convinced Clara is related to the Doctor.
I can't see how it could be otherwise. Also Palmer/Emma/Hila are very obvious mirrors for Doctor/River/Clara. This was totally this season's 'Black Spot', and we know how it all ends... ♥ (Not literally HOW, but the dynamic. Love my icon.)

[lonewytch]

Oh yup, i've seen and loved and adored Angel!!!

I think the only way it can NOT be that they are related now, is if it's been Moff on an epic trolling mission. Which - y'know - could happen. But it just makes sense, everything about it does.

Everything about River sacrificing herself to carry whatever weight the revelation of his name means makes sense to me too. Sadly.

[elisi]

Everything about River sacrificing herself to carry whatever weight the revelation of his name means makes sense to me too. Sadly.
And you've lost me, sorry. 'Splainy? (No spoilers though. So if it involves spoilery information I'm happy to wait.)

[lonewytch]

Ah, it's not spoilers, i avoid them. It's more my own musings, and i sometimes make the mistake of thinking people are with me in my brain

[hawkmoth]

And oh my! Tonight, in the TARDIS, in that room, with the cables and globes...my thoughts jumped right to here and all the symbolism of the World Tree!

[lonewytch]

I KNOW, RIGHT? My meta on the last ep is unfolding very slowly, but i hope to have it up tomorrow. I nearly screamed when there was an actual tree in the Tardis!!!

[hawkmoth]

And my daughter said, Oh, it must be validium! Which someone else cited in a recent post about the episode and the "tree."

Waiting for your meta!

[xenaclone]

Warning, spoiler from latest episode...

So the TARDIS has Yggdrasil inside it?

'The branches of Yggdrasil extend far into the heavens, and the tree is supported by three roots that extend far away into other locations; one to the well Urðarbrunnr in the heavens, one to the spring Hvergelmir, and another to the well Mímisbrunnr. Creatures live within Yggdrasil, including the wyrm (dragon) Níðhöggr, an unnamed eagle, and the stags Dáinn, Dvalinn, Duneyrr and Duraþrór.'

Does that mean that someone will find the Doctor's kryptonite [mistletoe] and pin him against a tree?

[lonewytch]

~happy dance~

I know, i was gleeful about the tree being actually physically there in the Tardis!!! This positions the Tardis as divine - but we all know she is effectively a goddess. But that whole thing about the Tree being the essence of pure creation, that it could repattern particles into anything...i was bouncing up and down in my seat!

Meta is forthcoming on the last ep, hopefully soon!!!

[boji]

You know the one thing neither of us have discussed visa-vi this episode is the Hide/Hyde possible subtext. There are monsters here (in the parallel portal-verse and in the ID. Or would that be of the id? The Doctor has a hero-self and a monster-self and so possibly will be pushed to be both Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. No doubt it's something Palmer experienced, his 'hyde/monster' self being a killer in war, but it's less straightforward I feel.

The Doctor isn't seeing things clearly, or at least is being presented as an unreliable narrator where Clara is concerned. He wants Emma's opinion, but possibly doesn't believe it.