For future reference, and stuff.
adonis_coil: The terrible thing about it?
adonis_coil: They'd be so good for each other.
long_dragon: Yes.
long_dragon: So so much.
adonis_coil: It would take a halfway meeting, but that's like most relationships... Ayame would have to take Hatori off of that pedistol and see him as a friend with failings as well as wisdom, Hatori would have to grant more than he'd been willing to observe in Ayame or been able to.
adonis_coil: And not saying either would be flawless or easy, but man. ::laughs:: they'd be as good for each other as Umeda and Akiha would.
adonis_coil: ... and both as likely. ::sighs at the shoujo retards::
long_dragon: Yes, they'd find a middle-ground where they could work together, and that would make them better persons
* adonis_coil nods.
long_dragon: I was thinking today, on how COMPLETELY CLOSED Hatori is to the world outside of his family.
long_dragon: He's been in camp for a month, spammed like a whore, and even so doesn't feel like he can really connect with any of the people he's met.
long_dragon: He can't bring himself to care yet... I WONDER IF HE EVER WILL.
long_dragon: And if he does, chances are, he won't even notice.
adonis_coil: Ayame needs someone strong, faithful, and he can trust to be a guide when he's unsure... and know when he's unsure even when he doesn't LOOK it. Hatori needs someone who'd love him unswervingly, a simple, undeniable truth through all the complications and obsticals
* long_dragon siiiigh
* adonis_coil nods.
adonis_coil: You can't blame Hatori though... he more than anyone knows the lines between Juunishi and Everyone Else
adonis_coil: The others worry about consequences, Hatori's the one who has to /deliver/ the consequences
long_dragon: Yeah, they fit together so well because of what they can give, and what they need...
long_dragon: ... yes. T.T
long_dragon: It's like this huge, flashing neon sign appears in his head everytime he talks to someone and finds they have things in common, or that he could get along with them
long_dragon: "DON'T."
* adonis_coil nodnods.
adonis_coil: I really ... really wonder if Hatori's concern about Mine and Akiha respectively, has nothing to do with jealousy or fear or history so much as just knowing the fall out and honest concern for Ayame.
long_dragon: It's a bit of everything, actually. I-- man, I wonder if I still have the log of when I talked to Inu about it... *digs*
long_dragon: Okay, so I don't have it but Puppy's gonna look for it >DD
adonis_coil: W00000t!
adonis_coil: ... she still needs to do that write up for us
* adonis_coil is working on a HUGE new relationships essay.
long_dragon: Yes, yes she does.
long_dragon: Man, I have so many essays I want to write...
adonis_coil: Some weekend I shall catch up on all my writing and essays.
long_dragon: < Inu > says:
« Ame » --> : I was rereading last night's thread
[03:23:39 p.m.] « Ame » --> : and
[03:23:44 p.m.] « Ame » --> : he is a horrible person
[03:24:00 p.m.] « Ame » --> : because yes, he's afraid that the same thing might happen again
[03:24:15 p.m.] « Ame » --> : but if it doesn't
[03:24:22 p.m.] « Ame » --> : and things go right
[03:24:38 p.m.] « Ame » --> : he'll feel horrible because it will only prove that he was an idiot
[03:24:41 p.m.] « Ame » --> : and like
[03:24:43 p.m.] « Ame » --> : he had his chance
[03:24:47 p.m.] « Ame » --> : and he screwed up
[03:25:10 p.m.] « Ame » --> : and now ayame has his and he's taking measures and everything will be all right and he'll leave
[03:25:10 p.m.] < Inu >: He's being a selfish asshole
[03:25:14 p.m.] « Ame » --> : yes
[03:25:20 p.m.] < Inu >: And Shigure knows that
[03:25:29 p.m.] « Ame » --> : *cries*
[03:26:25 p.m.] < Inu >: *pets*
[03:26:46 p.m.] « Ame » --> : A part of him is like "WTF why is he allowed happiness and not me, he's just being stupidly reckless"
[03:27:16 p.m.] « Ame » --> : While the other is "You had your opportunity and you lost it, this is your freaking punishment, so stfu and cope"
* adonis_coil .... snuggles on Hatori so much.
long_dragon: He is a retard :(
adonis_coil: But yeah... it's an emotional no win situation
* long_dragon nods.
long_dragon: He's just an idiot. Also, I'd like to point out that it took me two days into the thread to realize that
* adonis_coil grins.
adonis_coil: Your characters top you so badly.
long_dragon: Yes, shh.
long_dragon: Also, I'm saving this conversation for future reference
long_dragon: ALSO GO TO BED
long_dragon: <3
adonis_coil: But yeah... and... it ISN'T fair... Ayame has been horrible to people who've tried to get close to him all his life.
adonis_coil: To the point that the idea of it had to be distasteful.
long_dragon: ...yes.
adonis_coil: And... even though he'd fought for this slow turn around... how does it work out for HIM, when Hatori's done nothing but be considerate and kind
long_dragon: It just sucks to be him
adonis_coil: It's... not a mature thought, or a nice one, but it's a HUMAN thought
long_dragon: And to be fair, he *was* an idiot for thinking Akito would allow it
long_dragon: It's like, Kana turned him into a super optimistic person, to the point of stupidity ;;
* adonis_coil nods.
adonis_coil: And there was no way to stop that, without being the enemy...
adonis_coil: Shigure basically did everything he could in that one conversation
long_dragon: Yeah
long_dragon: GOOD THING HE STAYED OUTSIDE
adonis_coil: "You're being a dumbass" "It'll work out!" ".... ... okay, just be careful."
* adonis_coil nodnods.
long_dragon: Otherwise, Kana would've ended up dead
adonis_coil: Really.... there's a point for each of them... that all three of them are lucky to have found each other and fallen into such a deep friendship
long_dragon: Yeeees
long_dragon: I was reading a random fansite today, which wasn't all that good. But in Hatori's character description, there was one line mentioning how not much was known about his parents, but that he'd basically adopted both Shigure and Ayame as his family
adonis_coil: I think that's why it's so fun to play with the Kana thing... since it isn't about the incident or even the angst... it's such ... stark, to the bones, portrayl of their friendship
long_dragon: And it's just so. true.
adonis_coil: ... it is, really.
adonis_coil: Someone in camp could probably call them brothers and not really be corrected.
* long_dragon nods
long_dragon: The incest remains, anyway 8D
adonis_coil: Though they fall into all sorts of weird roles... sometimes parental, sometimes children, sometimes siblings... sometimes more distant than any of it.
adonis_coil: They adopt to whatever's needed the most
adonis_coil: ...well yes. The incest is always there
* adonis_coil grins.
long_dragon: Yes...
long_dragon: And right now Hatori is *so* pissed at Shigure
adonis_coil: ... hell, take Yuki's post. They switch dynamics at least three times entirely.
long_dragon: But he'll be the first one to jump at Seimei's throat if he tries to hurt him
* adonis_coil nods.
long_dragon: ..... yes.
adonis_coil: Ayame's told Shigure that Hatori is, because he's worried, and he'll calm down when time passes and nothing happens... taking a mother aspect while the father reprimanded and the scolded child told to look up
long_dragon: ....... god I love them so much.
adonis_coil: I know me toooo