Goku/Stan -- the in-depth explanation.
In the OOC anonymous meme, it was pointed out that Goku's relationship with Stan was rather... well, abrupt. Thus, it was probably OOC and uninteresting. And when confronted with questions, I responded--but the more I think about my answers, the more I realize I only threw out the immediate shallow answers. They don't really, in any way, truly
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Ah, I wince every time I read what Sanzo said to Stan. Painful, man.
As for Stan's reaction to those dangerous three words, well, we'll see. As I mentioned in his relationships list, I know he's capable of affection--after all, Heroes are allowed to hate, so Evil Kings can like. But can an Evil King love somebody? Or, if Stan asks himself that question, does the fact that he's even considering it prove that he has the capability?
... Man, I'll probably have to write up another essay thing after this is all sorted out and RPed. XD
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And thank you. Man, I had to keep going back to posts to dig up some fine details, and skim a few to jog my memory. These two've been through a lot. And obscenely long threads.
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Christ, I know. At least your lj memories are much more organized than mine are. Half the time if I'm looking for an old thread I'll check the memories on your journal first. XD
... Speaking of which, I should go add today's entry to memories.
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Can't wait for Stan's post, hee!
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So. Um, problem number one is the word "love." It's...not what I think of as a Goku word. At all. So much of the Sanzo-ikkou is about how they'd all shoot themselves in the head before they ever put in words what they meant to each other-- and Sanzo and Goku are especially like this. Goku throws fruit at people to show them they're human-- he doesn't talk, it's not his nature. And I know that an RP like this makes us...more talky just by the nature of the game, but it still didn't quite work for me. My rule with Sanzo is always to never say something to anyone outside the ikkou that I wouldn't say in the ikkou (I mean, under the right ( ... )
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And the second point is also well taken--and actually, I'd never really considered it. You're right--Stan is not Sanzo, and Goku won't put up with a lot of the abuse Stan... well, largely, used to put him through. And yes, most people think Goku should never be in a relationship, because he comes across as immature.
However... this is honestly where I start to relate myself to Goku, and maybe play him off my personality more than I should. (BAD D.) Goku's outward maturity -- or lack thereof -- is really just him being happy. He may seem immature, but he's really acting more childish--there's a slight difference, but it' ( ... )
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You're right, there is a fine line between Goku's sweet/happy/playful side and his immature side, and it is tricky. And a big part of the trick here in camp is letting the hidden stuff show through, and that's difficult as hell to do-- Rey-mun had a really hard time with it, where she thought she was putting things across that weren't getting through at all. It's certainly the thing I struggle most with with Sanzo-- the night Goku was like 'I'm leavin' ya alone, Merry Christmas!' Sanzo was like 'NO MONKEY STAY' but dude, he'll pull out his fingernails with pliers before he says that, and did that get across? Damned if I know.So it's tough. And ( ... )
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I have to admit, I think I needed that--there's nothing wrong with reassurance, certainly, and it's hard for me to ask for help or opinions on something, because I like to believe I know what I'm doing, even when I know very well I'm struggling. Like the Christmas thing--I didn't get that, so Goku didn't get it (though it's believable, I think, because no matter how strong an emotional/mental/what have you connection is, there's no way they can read each other perfectly). And as "loud" and confident as I am, I, too, have my little insecure inner RPer that's always going, "omg, you're annoying this player; omg, you're cutting in on a thread and nobody wants that; omg, you're pestering the ikkou players as usual."
Because really, I'm even denser than Goku, plus I suck at reading people. So honestly--thank you. For the concrit, for the reassurance, for being an awesomely open-minded player, for being honest, for every damn ( ... )
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