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kt_is_green November 1 2005, 22:22:31 UTC
Some of us need to whore ourselves out to college because not all of us get amazing grades and have parents that work at the number one university in the nation.

I'm not saying I am whoring myself out...but...sucking up should work to some degree.

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kt_is_green November 1 2005, 22:24:22 UTC
I took French by the way and I think that though French, Spanish and other romance languages have many root words too that would help you on the SAT's (and French did to some extent), I think the chances of Latin helping you out is a lot higher than any other language.

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lord_shmal November 2 2005, 00:00:35 UTC
Point taken... 4 years of Latin is however, in my mind at least, and you're welcome to another opinion, not worth 50 extra points on the SATs.

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lord_shmal November 1 2005, 23:59:21 UTC
Would you whore yourself out if you needed the money, and if there were other options, that would require a lot more work?

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avewave November 1 2005, 22:22:45 UTC
haha yes i agree with every word

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lord_shmal November 2 2005, 00:00:00 UTC
Thank you Avery.

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avewave November 2 2005, 03:19:29 UTC
actually, not every word. starting an argument by saying something is "stupid" and "retarded" basically discredits the entire explanation that follows it, although i still agree with it. your point would be much stronger if you worded it in a more mature way.

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lord_shmal November 2 2005, 03:23:17 UTC
This was not a serious post until people insulted french books, and responded as if I needed my views changed.

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megaronios November 1 2005, 22:32:13 UTC
it is a beautiful language and has interesting stuff written in it, some of which loses a lot in translation. and it's kinda like a puzzle, and best of all, it follows rules but still has a flexibility to it that makes it unique, not only as a language, but also in how each author uses it.

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lord_shmal November 2 2005, 00:08:30 UTC
"and best of all, it follows rules but still has a flexibility to it that makes it unique, not only as a language, but also in how each author uses it."

The above applies to Every language I've ever studied: French, Italian, Spanish, English and German. I've also taken the liberty to ask other people, and they've added Japanese and Portuguese to the list.
Thus, that point is null and void.

Ok, so Latin's a puzzle, so is French to somebody who doesn't speak it well. So again, point void.

It's a beautiful language and interesting stuff is written in it. So are countless other languages, but you'll never speak latin. So basically, you've proved to me that Latin is like most other languages, but has the little downside of not being spoken.

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megaronios November 2 2005, 01:21:42 UTC
je ne discute pas que la francais et aussi bien, j'adore la langue. et en general, j'aime bien toutes les langues, et je veux bien apprendre toutes que tu as enumere. i was pointing out that latin is not the boring old useless 'dead' language a lot of people think it is. language doesn't have to be just about speaking, otherwise why would anyone have bothered writing it down? yes, if you're going to visit/live in a (for example) french-speaking country, it's useful to be able to speak french. but that's not the only reason to learn a language, because languages usually reflect some kind of aggregate thought process or culture. not to mention what you learn about yourself in the process. i'm not saying that learning a language for the reasons you listed is right, i totally agree with you on that, but i think assuming that there are no other reasons to learn a language is a mistake. i'm arguing with your contention that "Latin is stupid. I'm sure that when people spoke it, it was fine, but now, it's retarded. Why would you ( ... )

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purposeofliving November 1 2005, 22:44:27 UTC
I take Latin cuz I hate French. Why do you do quantum physics if you cared so much about practicality? I actually like Latin. And I'm sure you're doing quantum physics cuz you like it, not for college (at least I hope not). I have yet to see an average person talking about quantum physics (just as people don't speak Latin).

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no_fish November 1 2005, 23:42:39 UTC
When knowing Latin has the potential to make a theoretically inifinitely powerful computer let me know. Until then I'm gonna stick with Quantum Physics.

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lord_shmal November 2 2005, 02:37:40 UTC
theoretically almost infinitely powerful :)

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lord_shmal November 2 2005, 00:12:12 UTC
Ok... you hate French? So why not take Spanish? Or Italian? Is it that you hate Romance Languages (Like Latin), then take German, Jap?
So that first sentence makes no arguement for you, exept that you don't like French.

Why do I study quantum physics? Because I'm good at it, and it'll get me a job which pays very well, and a grab at fame (published works of vital importance)... where can a career with Latin go Fred? You could teach more Latin I suppose, nothing wrong with that. Tell my Fred, do you see yourself teaching latin? I don't.

Andy pretty much answers the last part... I don't care what people think of Physics, it can do things, make things better, you know, solve the energy problem... can you think of ANY situation in which latin will solve a large world problem?

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